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flailing · Jun 23, 2003, 06:35 AM

Moon I see what you mean, he shows a former on the side view but not on the plan. I would just skip it and shape the lower block.
aeropenguin, Thanks for the compliments, there not perfect but as close as I can make them and still sleep at night.

bob the builder · Jun 30, 2003, 03:45 AM

super nice models Flailing and BobM! I didn't know there was a freeflight forum. I've spent all my time slummin' with the RC crowd (I have a split personality...). here is my Botali Pama lightplane. it does about 40 seconds indoors.

flailing · Jul 01, 2003, 07:15 AM

Nice plane Bob, Don't worry we won't tell the free flight guys you visit the dark side.

Bud Morrison · Jul 17, 2003, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moon
Thank you Flailing. I think I'm going to tackle this project. I am very inspired by your models. That must be a heckuva club you are in! We don't have FF activity in this immediate area that I am aware of. I depend on stuff like this for learning and FF conversation. Glad I found it.
Thanks again
Moon

Actually you have more activity around your area than you think. The FAC is located in Erie Pa the website is http://www.flyingacesclub.net/phpnuke/html/index.php

There are quite a few contests.

Bud Morrison · Jul 17, 2003, 06:59 AM

Another great source for freeflight information is the FFML mailing list.

It is a very active mailing list with free flight people from all over the world. http://www.mindspring.com/~thayer5/f...subscribe.html

BobM · Jul 21, 2003, 06:00 PM

Here's my Comte AC-12E from Walt Mooney plans. I just dusted it off (literally) for the high wing pnut event at Geneseo last weekend. It took some work, but I finally got 43 sec. out of it. But I'm sure that won't be competitive against the Cougars and Laceys. I covered it with red tissue, but it just didn't seem red enough. It was after a shot of Accu-flex though!

Bud Morrison · Jul 21, 2003, 06:55 PM

Bob,
What for prop did you use on that?

BobM · Jul 21, 2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Msaint
Bob,
What for prop did you use on that?

Its a Sleek Streek prop cut down to about 4 1/2". Its basically the same one found with a nylon prop hanger in AMA Cubs and other small stick models. You can get ones Sig distributes now, but good luck trying to find the on their web page http://www.sigmfg.com/cgi-bin/dpsmar...FV3.html?E+Sig (I searched for part number SIGNPPO055) . They are also available from them from Penn Valley http://www.pennvalleyhobbycenter.com...lies/props.htm

They aren't as nice (thicker, heavier, less camber and duller finish) as the old ones from North Pacific though. If you can find the originals, grab them!

moon · Jul 21, 2003, 08:12 PM

Bob
Nice bird. Looks great and 48 seconds is fantastic in my book!
What is Accu-flex?
Kevin Mooney

BobM · Jul 22, 2003, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moon
Bob
Nice bird. Looks great and 48 seconds is fantastic in my book!
What is Accu-flex?
Kevin Mooney

Thanks Kevin. Good question on the accuflex. I haven't bought some for a while, so I did a quick google search to find the deteils. It is (or maybe was) airbrush paint targeted at the model train crowd with colors like Caboose Red and Engine Black. I really like it becasue it coveres a variety of different surfaces (doped tissue, metal, plastic) with a single light coat that's pretty flexable when dry. Its also water (or soap and water wash up) and doesn't seem to have nasty fumes.

It turns out it was originally marketed by Badger and the plastic bottles even screwed into their airbrushes. It worked fine for me without thinning, but some people like to. Later it was distributed by Testors, but they have apparently dropped it. I don't see any reference to it on their web page.

The good new (I'm hoping) is that Badger now carries a brand called Model-flex, that some seem to like better than Accuflex. If what they say is true here http://www.badger-airbrush.com/modelflex.htm I think I'm still happy. I'll buy some and let you know.

-Bob M

moon · Jul 22, 2003, 09:48 AM

Thanks Bob
I will look for it at my LHS. Sorry to interrogate you so much

How did you make the wheels for you Mooney Pnut? They look fantastic.
Kevin Mooney

BobM · Jul 22, 2003, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moon
Thanks Bob
I will look for it at my LHS. Sorry to interrogate you so much
How did you make the wheels for you Mooney Pnut? They look fantastic.
Kevin Mooney

No problem Kevin. In fact I'm really glad to see interest in this stuff. One of the things that bothers me about going to these meets is that the average age of the participants is going way up fast. The older guys are great, but I'm worried that when they all pass away, I'll be flying planes by myself. That's a pretty depressing situation.

So to you question, I made the out of blue contruction foam. I'm sure the pink stuff would work as well. I just bought a 2' x 8' sheet of it for . A lifetime supply. My wife thought I was nuts!

I used a nicrom wire cutter to slice it into sheets about 1/8" - 3/32" thick and cut out disks with my Olfa Circle cutter. Then I epoxy them into about a 1" long piece of 1/16" aluminum tubing, making sure they a centered and turn true. I use a battery operated dremel tool to turn them and shape with a sanding block. To finish, I painted them black an glued on some silver paper disks to make the hubs. Finally, I trim off the excess tubing and they are ready to mount.

The landing gear struts are all attached with little pices of staple wire pushed into the ends of the struts. That way they have a little give on hard landings. I don't glue them in at the front so if its really hard, they pop off without breaking anything. I'll take some close ups of that tonight.

So Troy must be like 2 hours down the Thruway from Geneseo. Any chance I'll see you there next year?

- Bob M

Bud Morrison · Jul 22, 2003, 03:44 PM

Bob,
Im not far from Maryland.
There was a group of guys who used to meet and fly in the York Pa area just off route 83 North of York. They flew outdoor co2 and rubber stuff. Not sure if they still are as Im trying to locate one of them at the present to find out, as I have just got back into flying freeflight. I have been looking for some meets in my area and haven't really found anything. I thought there was an FAC squadron or a cloudbusters club near me also but havent found them either heh. Soon as I get something finished I guess Ill have to post something on the FFML and see if I can locate any of them.

Msaint

jernst · Jul 22, 2003, 04:10 PM

Bob / Msaint,

I'm not that far from Lancaster ...less than 2 hrs, and not that far from D.C....about 3 hrs. I say we find some intermediate place and toss some planes!

Bob, do you fly regularly with the Maxecuters? I've always been tempted to fly at the NBM one w/e. Which part of MD are you in? I lived in WhiteMarsh for a couple of years back in the early 80's.

Also, you have a pic of your GB Racer in the photo album on the Free Flight Cook-Up site. Did you take that to Geneseo last weekend?

Sorry for so many questions....

john ernst

jernst · Jul 22, 2003, 04:28 PM

As long as we're showing.....

This is a Fairchild PT-19 p'nut built from the Gene Dubois kit.

The kit is slightly over-engineered and would probably make a great Dimer.

The plane was extremely nose heavy. I scraped the prop and removed the "fixed" scale LG, and got it to fly for maybe 25-30 secs at the most.

It really "screamed" around in LH circles until it got stuck in the rafters at the indoor site I was flying at in Philly.

john ernst

Jun 30, 2003, 03:45 AM	#32
bob the builder planaholic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Zig Zag, OR Posts: 169	super nice models Flailing and BobM! I didn't know there was a freeflight forum. I've spent all my time slummin' with the RC crowd (I have a split personality...). here is my Botali Pama lightplane. it does about 40 seconds indoors. Attached Thumbnails 21.1 KB · Views: 499

Jul 17, 2003, 06:59 AM	#35
Bud Morrison Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lancaster Pa Posts: 1,856	Another great source for freeflight information is the FFML mailing list. It is a very active mailing list with free flight people from all over the world. http://www.mindspring.com/~thayer5/f...subscribe.html Last edited by Bud Morrison; Jul 17, 2003 at 07:02 AM.

Jul 21, 2003, 06:00 PM	#36
BobM Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Suburban Maryland Posts: 47	Here's my Comte AC-12E from Walt Mooney plans. I just dusted it off (literally) for the high wing pnut event at Geneseo last weekend. It took some work, but I finally got 43 sec. out of it. But I'm sure that won't be competitive against the Cougars and Laceys. I covered it with red tissue, but it just didn't seem red enough. It was after a shot of Accu-flex though! Attached Thumbnails 41.9 KB · Views: 385

Jul 22, 2003, 04:28 PM	#45
jernst Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: lansdale, pa. Posts: 67	As long as we're showing..... This is a Fairchild PT-19 p'nut built from the Gene Dubois kit. The kit is slightly over-engineered and would probably make a great Dimer. The plane was extremely nose heavy. I scraped the prop and removed the "fixed" scale LG, and got it to fly for maybe 25-30 secs at the most. It really "screamed" around in LH circles until it got stuck in the rafters at the indoor site I was flying at in Philly. john ernst Attached Thumbnails 54.6 KB · Views: 361

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Jun 23, 2003, 06:35 AM	#31
flailing Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,030	Moon I see what you mean, he shows a former on the side view but not on the plan. I would just skip it and shape the lower block. aeropenguin, Thanks for the compliments, there not perfect but as close as I can make them and still sleep at night.

Jul 01, 2003, 07:15 AM	#33
flailing Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,030	Nice plane Bob, Don't worry we won't tell the free flight guys you visit the dark side.

Jul 21, 2003, 06:55 PM	#37
Bud Morrison Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lancaster Pa Posts: 1,856	Bob, What for prop did you use on that?

Jul 21, 2003, 08:12 PM	#39
moon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: troy NY Posts: 93	Bob Nice bird. Looks great and 48 seconds is fantastic in my book! What is Accu-flex? Kevin Mooney

Jul 22, 2003, 09:48 AM	#41
moon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: troy NY Posts: 93	Thanks Bob I will look for it at my LHS. Sorry to interrogate you so much How did you make the wheels for you Mooney Pnut? They look fantastic. Kevin Mooney

Jul 22, 2003, 03:44 PM	#43
Bud Morrison Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lancaster Pa Posts: 1,856	Bob, Im not far from Maryland. There was a group of guys who used to meet and fly in the York Pa area just off route 83 North of York. They flew outdoor co2 and rubber stuff. Not sure if they still are as Im trying to locate one of them at the present to find out, as I have just got back into flying freeflight. I have been looking for some meets in my area and haven't really found anything. I thought there was an FAC squadron or a cloudbusters club near me also but havent found them either heh. Soon as I get something finished I guess Ill have to post something on the FFML and see if I can locate any of them. Msaint

Jul 22, 2003, 04:10 PM	#44
jernst Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: lansdale, pa. Posts: 67	Bob / Msaint, I'm not that far from Lancaster ...less than 2 hrs, and not that far from D.C....about 3 hrs. I say we find some intermediate place and toss some planes! Bob, do you fly regularly with the Maxecuters? I've always been tempted to fly at the NBM one w/e. Which part of MD are you in? I lived in WhiteMarsh for a couple of years back in the early 80's. Also, you have a pic of your GB Racer in the photo album on the Free Flight Cook-Up site. Did you take that to Geneseo last weekend? Sorry for so many questions.... john ernst