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Old Jan 14, 2013, 01:27 AM
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sorry only 30 000 ,but two days in a row is 60 000
but i was invited from another state.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 03:10 AM
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This bloke above, which ever state he comes from, deffinitelly got the bigger one, I'm out of this Thread for good, J.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 03:13 AM
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Here is a pic of at least 18 months old. It has been flown on gravel and horse stomped grass. Nothing beats hands on experience and 38yrs of know how with my toys

When i fly full sized aerobatic aircraft,wich i can take passengers . We always refer to flying toy planes,glass,foam,plastic and balsa etc as like having phone sex
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 03:18 AM
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sorry only 30 000 ,but two days in a row is 60 000
but i was invited from another state.
do you even have an f-100 mate???if yes could you post pics of the edf your running(which i guess must be the best in the world)and also of your jet????
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 04:42 AM
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maidened today.... almost lost her too.

take off was flawless and no trim corrections needed. plane flew like it was on rails... However, when i took it up high and did some slow flight/stalls to see how she would handle them and how slow i can get her things got ugly.. i slowed to 1/4 throttle, and slowed her down while applying elevator, she buffeted and then dropped the nose and the left wing slightly when she stalled, no big deal. I called out "ok theres the stall" and i applied full power to fly out. plane was level then started to pitch up very deliberately like it went full tail heavy or full stall. i am still at full throttle pouring the coals to it. plane stood on its tail in a full stall hovering off sheer power alone and slowlyh sliding back on its tail towards the ground.. i start shouting lots of explatives, continuing the full power, trying to force the nose down but with no air over the stabs they are useless.. finally at about 100ft off the ground the nose dropped and the plane rolled to the left and flew right out like nothing happened...

i brought her around and landed.... not sure what to make of it... didnt fly again to test any theories.. i think it was a deep full stall but i am not 100% convinced that something else wasnt going on because when i induced the test stall the plane was slight nose down and level when i powered out of the stall yet it started to pitch up abruptly and go into a deep full stall....
A config like this f-100 can do some funny things when it stops flying, its not a 3D plane ( at least controllable 3d) As you found out, lol. You actually all did a little "sabre dance" it sounds. The real ones do it too, hence the name!

Mine is not a foamy anymore, its composite with foam core, ha.

Back in the day before actually usable EDF's and turbines, this size jet would have had a Ramtec fan, OS91 and spring air retracts, giant servos and weighed 12-16# RTF and taken months to build plus cost 6x what one of these EDF's do now. Some of you may remember that time! and then you trust all that to sometimes dodgy 72mhz. I cant believe I/we actually flew a turbine jet on 72MHZ, haha. That was always the worst fear, those damn radios. PCM 1024!

The guys who start the hobby lately with all this cool stuff really don't know how lucky/spoiled they are! I took this Mercury all alloy super lightweight fan out of the box and my jaw dropped somewhat. Stuff like that was a total dream now reality and cheap on top of it. And a metal electric retract that cost $8 each... used to pay that much for just the screws for landing gear....
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 04:52 AM
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A config like this f-100 can do some funny things when it stops flying, its not a 3D plane ( at least controllable 3d) As you found out, lol. You actually all did a little "sabre dance" it sounds. The real ones do it too, hence the name!

Mine is not a foamy anymore, its composite with foam core, ha.

Back in the day before actually usable EDF's, this size jet would have had a Ramtec fan, OS91 and spring air retracts, giant servos and weighed 12-16# RTF and taken months to build plus cost 6x what one of these EDF's do now. Some of you may remember that time! and then you trust all that to sometimes dodgy 72mhz. I cant believe I/we actually flew a turbine jet on 72MHZ, haha. That was always the worst fear, those damn radios. PCM 1024 you put your faith in!

The guys who start the hobby lately with all this cool stuff really don't know how lucky/spoiled they are! I took this Mercury all alloy super lightweight fan out of the box and my jaw dropped somewhat. Stuff like that was a total dream now reality and cheap on top of it. And a metal electric retract that cost $8 each... used to pay that much for just the screws for landing gear.
I hear you AAA+++. Thats what i thought in regards to the mercury. If you check my utube page you will see why agree withy you.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 06:46 AM
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maidened today.... almost lost her too.

take off was flawless and no trim corrections needed. plane flew like it was on rails... However, when i took it up high and did some slow flight/stalls to see how she would handle them and how slow i can get her things got ugly.. i slowed to 1/4 throttle, and slowed her down while applying elevator, she buffeted and then dropped the nose and the left wing slightly when she stalled, no big deal. I called out "ok theres the stall" and i applied full power to fly out. plane was level then started to pitch up very deliberately like it went full tail heavy or full stall. i am still at full throttle pouring the coals to it. plane stood on its tail in a full stall hovering off sheer power alone and slowlyh sliding back on its tail towards the ground.. i start shouting lots of explatives, continuing the full power, trying to force the nose down but with no air over the stabs they are useless.. finally at about 100ft off the ground the nose dropped and the plane rolled to the left and flew right out like nothing happened...

i brought her around and landed.... not sure what to make of it... didnt fly again to test any theories.. i think it was a deep full stall but i am not 100% convinced that something else wasnt going on because when i induced the test stall the plane was slight nose down and level when i powered out of the stall yet it started to pitch up abruptly and go into a deep full stall....
I have a scratch built F-100 and it (as with most swept wings) doesn't like to be stalled. I've stalled it several times and it's always hairy. I've got to let it drop nose down for a loooooong time and gain speed before trying to pull out.

The first time it happened I put the juice to it and tried to pull out right away and it stalled again. Gotta let the airspeed build way up before trying to get back to level flight.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 08:06 AM
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^^Thats exactly right Mr Julian. I flew my mig for a few years and never stalled it once, purposly, I dident want to go there! haha. If you stall a jet like these low, you're probably screwed, if its up high get the nose down fast and at a pretty steep angle.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 09:05 AM
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I have a scratch built F-100 and it (as with most swept wings) doesn't like to be stalled. I've stalled it several times and it's always hairy. I've got to let it drop nose down for a loooooong time and gain speed before trying to pull out.

The first time it happened I put the juice to it and tried to pull out right away and it stalled again. Gotta let the airspeed build way up before trying to get back to level flight.
yup, and now i know what to expect, how slow i can actually get it before it does stall, and then what to expect after the stall.......

I really only posted just to see if anyone else has or had experienced similar stall characteristics from their sabres.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
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Bombz

Some parkflyer plastic bombs for static display, Models spend most of their time being looked at rather than used, at least mine anyway.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 01:00 PM
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that looks excellent...I love these updates
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 06:13 PM
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Chev...it might have some up thrust that caused it to pitch up on the recovery ,try a stall and dont add power and see what it does.the wing has a lot of positive incedence so even when fuse is level the wings could still stall at low speed.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 06:13 PM
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heres a light f4 90mm
F4 Phantom Twin (4 min 37 sec)


keep them light and there hard to crash

90mm F4 Phantom twin EDF Haoye 4cell Jet (3 min 1 sec)
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 07:24 PM
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heres a light f4 90mm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pql5N2xwdrY

keep them light and there hard to crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsEmrmRrpmg
Each to his own I guess but the other vids here of heavy F-100s look far better to me than a pitchy Phantom which flies like a tiger moth. It doesn't seem to have much presence in the air - it's just floating around.
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Old Jan 14, 2013, 07:52 PM
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each to his own i guess but the other vids here of heavy f-100s look far better to me than a pitchy phantom which flies like a tiger moth. It doesn't seem to have much presence in the air - it's just floating around.
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