Aerotow-West - Page 2

davidjensen · Oct 07, 2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rocketman47

Excellent David! Gee, I wish it were spring already!

You too? I just finished redoing my 4M ASW with the new CF wing rod that changed the wing loading from 29.2 to 26 oz/sf. I want to fly it so badly to find out how it has changed. Waiting out the winter may not be possible.

rocketman47 · Oct 07, 2009, 11:24 AM

That'll certainly be an improvement on what I'm sure is an already great performing sailplane!

s2000 · Oct 07, 2009, 03:35 PM

David, I did a very similar carbon/steel switch on my 1/3 ASW-24. I know it is almost a pound lighter and I am sure it will help in marginal conditions but frankly it made no difference in the way the plane flies, which was superb before and still is.

davidjensen · Oct 07, 2009, 04:13 PM

My ASW 28 is a HF model and it is brutally strong and heavy. I had it at Eagle butte a few weekends ago and in 30mph winds it was slow and lumbering. It kept up in the air fine at 20mph in the morning but it was not happy. At the end of the day the winds had picked up to over 40 and the ASW came alive. It moved out and had real momentum. I figure I'll use the steel rod and some extra balast when at the slope and the CF rod for aerotow/thermal flying.

TRISME · Oct 07, 2009, 10:32 PM

Good looking plane. I like the guy's blue spinner hat too.

rocketman47 · Oct 08, 2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by davidjensen

My ASW 28 is a HF model and it is brutally strong and heavy. I had it at Eagle butte a few weekends ago and in 30mph winds it was slow and lumbering. It kept up in the air fine at 20mph in the morning but it was not happy. At the end of the day the winds had picked up to over 40 and the ASW came alive. It moved out and had real momentum. I figure I'll use the steel rod and some extra balast when at the slope and the CF rod for aerotow/thermal flying.

Eagle Butt? Looks like Blanco to me..

davidjensen · Oct 08, 2009, 01:56 AM

You are correct.

rocketman47 · Oct 08, 2009, 09:31 AM

Pulled the trigger this A.M. Our Pilatus will be here in about three weeks!

BTW. I'm a far better pilot than builder so Matt A.K.A. MadCap231ex will be taking on the construction chores. He's a very maticulous individual! The lead time gives us a chance to decide on a powerplant. Personally, I feel that a DA100, or a 3W106/110 is as large(heavy)as I want to go on this project. We are looking at several low time "pre-owned" engines that are on the market right now... Stay tuned!

Randy

rocketman47 · Oct 09, 2009, 09:58 AM

I have quite a bit of time on both ends of the tow line. Matt is new to aerotowing so, we decided that we would set up my little HobbyZone Super Cub to tow my little WindRider EPP Fox. If we can keep these little guys lined up on tow, everything else should be gravy!

davidjensen · Oct 09, 2009, 11:34 AM

Waiting for the video

rocketman47 · Oct 09, 2009, 03:49 PM

Will do! I have a little ST Labs 5n1 cam that takes pretty good footage!

PS: Turn your sound down! I'm a Pilot, not a movie editor!

Randy

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2588367543542#

davidjensen · Oct 12, 2009, 12:57 AM

Had a great time in Wenatchee over the weekend. We pulled both of my ASW 28's. The Senior Telemaster had a hard time but did pull my 1/4 scale up twice.

dgliderguy · Oct 12, 2009, 11:25 AM

Dave,

Who's Sr Telly is that? What engine does it have?

MadCap231ex · Oct 12, 2009, 02:29 PM

Can anyone enlighten me as to how to properly build a tow line?
I had a link but lost it!

I would like to get an idea of what most guys are using rather than re-invent wheel (so to speak).

Thanks!
Matt

Ps Great pics everyone...

davidjensen · Oct 12, 2009, 03:43 PM

The Senior Telemaster is owned by Craig Wentz who lives in Wenatchee. It has a Thunder Tiger 90 in the nose. We have done a lot of tows with it and smaller ships but this is the first time with a 12+ lb ship. The only real problem was when at altitude, the string got slack a few times and instead of yanking in the glider it yanked really hard on the tug.

Oct 07, 2009, 04:13 PM	#19
davidjensen Will fly for food Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 3,031	My ASW 28 is a HF model and it is brutally strong and heavy. I had it at Eagle butte a few weekends ago and in 30mph winds it was slow and lumbering. It kept up in the air fine at 20mph in the morning but it was not happy. At the end of the day the winds had picked up to over 40 and the ASW came alive. It moved out and had real momentum. I figure I'll use the steel rod and some extra balast when at the slope and the CF rod for aerotow/thermal flying. Attached Thumbnails 76.4 KB · Views: 88

Oct 08, 2009, 01:56 AM	#22
davidjensen Will fly for food Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 3,031	You are correct. Attached Thumbnails Here she is at Eagle 58.0 KB · Views: 61

Oct 09, 2009, 09:58 AM	#24
rocketman47 These go to eleven Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Point, OR. Posts: 1,626	I have quite a bit of time on both ends of the tow line. Matt is new to aerotowing so, we decided that we would set up my little HobbyZone Super Cub to tow my little WindRider EPP Fox. If we can keep these little guys lined up on tow, everything else should be gravy! Attached Thumbnails 68.4 KB · Views: 72

Oct 12, 2009, 12:57 AM	#27
davidjensen Will fly for food Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 3,031	Had a great time in Wenatchee over the weekend. We pulled both of my ASW 28's. The Senior Telemaster had a hard time but did pull my 1/4 scale up twice. Attached Thumbnails 81.2 KB · Views: 51 83.9 KB · Views: 50 78.1 KB · Views: 42 32.8 KB · Views: 43 57.0 KB · Views: 46 16.6 KB · Views: 42

Oct 12, 2009, 02:29 PM	#29
MadCap231ex Go Oregon Football! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Talent OR Posts: 90	Tow Line Can anyone enlighten me as to how to properly build a tow line? I had a link but lost it! I would like to get an idea of what most guys are using rather than re-invent wheel (so to speak). Thanks! Matt Ps Great pics everyone...

Oct 07, 2009, 11:24 AM	#17
rocketman47 These go to eleven Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Point, OR. Posts: 1,626	That'll certainly be an improvement on what I'm sure is an already great performing sailplane!

Oct 07, 2009, 03:35 PM	#18
s2000 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: so. cal. Posts: 1,030	David, I did a very similar carbon/steel switch on my 1/3 ASW-24. I know it is almost a pound lighter and I am sure it will help in marginal conditions but frankly it made no difference in the way the plane flies, which was superb before and still is.

Oct 07, 2009, 10:32 PM	#20
TRISME It's not too windy. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aliso Viejo,CA Posts: 458	Good looking plane. I like the guy's blue spinner hat too.

Oct 08, 2009, 09:31 AM	#23
rocketman47 These go to eleven Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Point, OR. Posts: 1,626	Pulled the trigger this A.M. Our Pilatus will be here in about three weeks! BTW. I'm a far better pilot than builder so Matt A.K.A. MadCap231ex will be taking on the construction chores. He's a very maticulous individual! The lead time gives us a chance to decide on a powerplant. Personally, I feel that a DA100, or a 3W106/110 is as large(heavy)as I want to go on this project. We are looking at several low time "pre-owned" engines that are on the market right now... Stay tuned! Randy

Oct 09, 2009, 11:34 AM	#25
davidjensen Will fly for food Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 3,031	Waiting for the video

Oct 12, 2009, 11:25 AM	#28
dgliderguy Where's the lift? Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Snohomish WA USA Posts: 1,730	Dave, Who's Sr Telly is that? What engine does it have?

Oct 12, 2009, 03:43 PM	#30
davidjensen Will fly for food Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 3,031	The Senior Telemaster is owned by Craig Wentz who lives in Wenatchee. It has a Thunder Tiger 90 in the nose. We have done a lot of tows with it and smaller ships but this is the first time with a 12+ lb ship. The only real problem was when at altitude, the string got slack a few times and instead of yanking in the glider it yanked really hard on the tug. Last edited by davidjensen; Oct 12, 2009 at 07:54 PM.