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Old Mar 31, 2010, 04:20 PM
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Thanks, Berrie.

Its flying. And turning. And wont land.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 05:01 PM
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For now looks good. I just come back from a test fly. I was flying in the same baseball field place between the trees.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 05:15 PM
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How does the performance and handling seem to you?

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 08:36 PM
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Hmm...I feel compelled to say something, even though it may back fire and make me look like a pedantic know-it-all...So apologies in advance

Muto, you probably know this....but if you press the print screen key you can then paste a screen shot of anything you have on your screen into a program like Paint and then save it as an image file...jpg or similar.
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Old Apr 01, 2010, 09:48 AM
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How does the performance and handling seem to you?

Gerald
Looks like the model love speed. Nice control with ailerons only. Yesterday was so windy and turbulence in that small field an the model has no problem moving into the wind. I set my flaps 2mm offset for launch 0 and 2mm dawn. Ailerons 12 mm up and down no differential. Elevator little up for launch only. Finally model weight its 160 grams.


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Muto, you probably know this....
I know, but was something wrong with my PC and I take a picture
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Old Apr 01, 2010, 10:24 AM
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Muto, I think you can add more downflap for thermalling. My Mini Zone (which is a bit smaller as yours) has 3.5-4mm downflap for thermalling. The plane slows down drastically. And if you swith to cruise or speed, the plane is fast indeed. You can see it accelarate. In speed mode the sinkrate is, as a backdraw, noticable higher.

G_T has posted his flapsettings fot the fullsize Zone.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...59&postcount=6.

I copied them for the Mini Zone.

I flew the 1mtr Mini Zone last weekend with a gusty wind, 3-4 beaufort. I was standing behind a threeline, getting even more turbulence. The Mini Zone doesn't like this kind of turbulence. Even if you ballast the glider to 165 gram.
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Old Apr 01, 2010, 10:59 AM
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Yep, you will probably find that having a base camber of 3 to 4mm and then elevator to flap compensation that puts you closer to 6mm in a thermal turn is what you want. It should slow down quite nicely and turn decently tight. But for those not used to Zones, keeping the bank angle no higher than 45 degrees helps keep the turn efficient. And don't try to float the turn too much. Let it carve a little bit.

For launch, having perhaps 1mm of down camber mixed into the launch preset is a good thing. Then on the climb, be at 0 camber which is the native camber of the wing.

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Old Apr 01, 2010, 04:49 PM
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Look that 6mm flap works fine. Even more
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Old Apr 02, 2010, 08:49 AM
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DLG Zone 1m (1 min 15 sec)
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Old Apr 18, 2010, 06:49 AM
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Yesterday I could spec out my Mini Zone. Thermals were everywere.

I could roll, loop and when flying gets really boring, upsite down thermalling.

Hehehe, cool plane.

I'm really surprised there are so little people who build the mini Zone so far.


Meanwhile, the fusemold is ready. Due to familyresponsibilitys it will take some time before the first fuselage is ready.

Things I want to try with the mold:

Canopy:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=973

Bladder:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1056468
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Old Apr 19, 2010, 01:07 PM
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Berrie,

I think the light weight in the specification scares many away.

I'm glad you are having fun with your new plane!

Gerald
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Old May 11, 2010, 03:26 PM
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Dennis was placed second with the Mini Zone at one of the six Dutch championship competitions!! It was the first time ever that he flew a Mini Zone at a competition. The reason he is placed 'only' second: he hit someone during the last landing and got a penalty....

We expect a better score the next time, cause he flew with a warped wing, not the sweet dihidral and with fat balsafuselage.

Last weeks I've build 3 more wings, and they are almost completed. These wings are layed up with extra reinforcement around the servo's. It addes extra grams as a concequence.

This evening the first composite fuselage left the molds. It's lay up was simple. Four layers of balanced glas at 45. One 24K roving at the wingsaddle and one at the longitudinal joint. Weight about 11 grams. I was hoping for 10 or 9 gram. Next layup with kevlar.

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Old May 11, 2010, 03:44 PM
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Yesterday I could spec out my Mini Zone. Thermals were everywere.



I'm really surprised there are so little people who build the mini Zone so far.
Berrie,
I think it's because " little people " can't handle a 60" DLG without a tip strike, but they want to fly DLG too.

walt

Sorry
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Old May 11, 2010, 04:39 PM
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Hi Berrie,

It was a shame that Dennis had to hit somebody and that he lost because of that.
We where really close the whole day (In points that is, Walt ). But Dennis had a better last round. Sadly he also lost the 100 points in this round.
Looking forward to the coming rounds where I hope that I can keep up with the Zone and Dennis.

The new fuse looks great.

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Old May 11, 2010, 08:27 PM
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Berrie,

That is shaping up to a nice looking little plane!

Dennis,

Good flying! Until the end of course

Gerald
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