AMA gets some help - Page 4

init4fun · Sep 29, 2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by littlecrankshaft

And AMA will take $58 and we can be sure that you have testified in court to see that an injured member went without getting his medical bills paid.

Good God Cant we keep to the subject being discussed ? I dont want to hear about the past , I want to know what this new company offers that is supposed to be better than what we have already ? Just ONE time id like to see something talked about here that doesnt turn into a slugfest

The Toolman · Sep 29, 2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Scholefield

That was probably so you could buy up the lumber on the cheap from the no longer needed outhouses.

Your so sweet red...

By the way, I talked with Bill on the phone last night an he said you just won't go to any of the meets that he's at so he can say Hi to ya in person...

init4fun · Sep 29, 2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Toolman

Frank, you can't stand to see some competition?
This Co. might grow into bigger things as it matures. Look at walmart, they started out with one little store in Ark. an now look at'em.
If ama would give the option of mag or no mag with a good price cut, they probably wouldn't have to worry about any competition ever.
$58 w/mag
$30 no/mag

Edited for the who ever the little one in this thread is

Just to set the record straight : I report ONLY spammers selling shoes ! If you got reported it didnt come from my computer ! If I dont like what someone says you will hear about it from me - not some moderator

The Toolman · Sep 29, 2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by init4fun

Just to set the record straight : I report ONLY spammers selling shoes ! If you got reported it didnt come from my computer ! If I dont like what someone says you will hear about it from me - not some moderator

LOL I never said it was you, now did I? But you spoke up first though....

Silent-AV8R · Sep 29, 2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by littlecrankshaft

And AMA will take $58 and we can be sure that you have testified in court to see that an injured member went without getting his medical bills paid.

You just amuse me to no end. As has been hashed and rehashed in several forums and numerous threads this was not the case. You seem to be the only person incapable of understanding that.

Of course you attempt to take the discussion off topic did not answer the point. We know virtually nothing about this venture yet many seem ready to accept them with open arms with little or no concern for who they are or anything else.

init4fun · Sep 29, 2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Toolman

LOL I never said it was you, now did I? But you spoke up first though....

Yea ,Yea , I know "he who smelt it dealt it"

. But seriously Just so you know : I wasnt kidding . I only report geniuses who come onto a model airplane forum trying to sell shoes . We should be able to entertain a lively discussion without running to the teacher every time our feelings get hurt ! If I dont like what ya say ill call you out on it , that way at least you KNOW where the disagreement came from .

init4fun · Sep 29, 2009, 02:24 PM

[quote=Silent-AV8R We know virtually nothing about this venture yet many seem ready to accept them with open arms with little or no concern for who they are or anything else.[/QUOTE]
Hi Silent-AV8R , this is exactly the reason i hate all the arguing going on . Id like to hear what this organization offers but its kinda hard to hear anything with all the bombs dropping . Would they be a good suppliment to AMA insurance ? ................Well we probablly wont know because no one seems to want to discuss this , instead of trying to drag up old conflicts .

DreamArcher · Sep 29, 2009, 02:28 PM

Did anybody notice "no safety code". While I'm all for that it does sound like legal Swiss cheese.

fhhuber506771 · Sep 29, 2009, 02:53 PM

Re the Safety Code:

If you read it and think about it... most of it is "common sense"

Some of it is there (the video and self guidance parts) to try to show the FAA and other government agencies that we don't want to create weapons...

Some of it is there because of "darwin award" level lack of common sense...
EG: "don't fly over people" (paraphrased) is in part due to an AMA airshow team member planting a model in the crowd at a football game, killing one and severely injuring another.

In other terms... the AMA Safety Code is a list of very good advice on how to be reasonably safe.

Most of the RC specific guidelines do expect an aircraft that is over 3 lbs and faster than 50 mph... We probably need to develop a separate indoor RC section.

DreamArcher · Sep 29, 2009, 03:01 PM

Well yes, for the reasonable person who attempts to contribute to society, and doesn't act as a selfish jerk, it is common sense. However we know: 1) Some people will intentionally circumvent common sense and pretend they didn't know and claim "The rules don't say I can't fly over people so therefor I can and will. It's my right." or 2) Just don't have any. So we need rules (safety codes) thanks to those people, sadly.

init4fun · Sep 29, 2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamArcher

Did anybody notice "no safety code". While I'm all for that it does sound like legal Swiss cheese.

Hi Mike , Ill bet that by the time the first member id card gets issued by this new company they will issue some kind of "fly using all manufacturers reccomended guidelines" statement . The funny thing about that is that just about every manufacturer reccomends AMA membership ! Like Fred Huber says there is no substitute for common sense . Its just a shame that in this lawsuit happy world we have to tell people what constitutes common sense . Should someone NEED to be told not to fly over peoples heads ? or should that come from the good grey matter God gave them ?

bjpaul · Sep 29, 2009, 03:17 PM

Go to the AMA Website and pull up the 2008 FS. The total expense for insurance (membership & general) was ~$1.2 million. That comes to about $10.00 per full dues paying member.

fhhuber506771 · Sep 29, 2009, 03:23 PM

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init4fun · Sep 29, 2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fhhuber506771

Some people didn't get much good grey matter.

Thats why we need rules.

Couldnt we just banish those who dont use their grey matter to only fly "Air Hogz"

Red Scholefield · Sep 29, 2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Toolman

Your so sweet red...

By the way, I talked with Bill on the phone last night an he said you just won't go to any of the meets that he's at so he can say Hi to ya in person...

I assume you are referring to stickbuilder (aka Bill Hurt).

That is a problem here in Central Florida where I can't find a club within 50 miles of Leesburg that will claim him a member - so I have no idea of what meets he attends. He seemed to miss SEFF when he said he would be there and promised to "to send pics of the knuckles".

I will be at the following:
Oct 10 - Octoberfest Club 40 - Gainesville
Oct 24 - Zephyr All Electric - Zephyrhills
Nov 7 - OTOW Open Fly-In - Ocala
Dec 5 - 11th Santa Fly-In - Dunellon

Sep 29, 2009, 03:01 PM	#55
DreamArcher Mike Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Union City, Ca. Posts: 662	Well yes, for the reasonable person who attempts to contribute to society, and doesn't act as a selfish jerk, it is common sense. However we know: 1) Some people will intentionally circumvent common sense and pretend they didn't know and claim "The rules don't say I can't fly over people so therefor I can and will. It's my right." or 2) Just don't have any. So we need rules (safety codes) thanks to those people, sadly. Last edited by DreamArcher; Sep 29, 2009 at 03:18 PM.

Sep 29, 2009, 03:23 PM	#58
fhhuber506771 Deletedfor proving Nauga wrong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Posts: 15,865	... Last edited by fhhuber506771; Oct 24, 2009 at 11:52 PM.

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Sep 29, 2009, 02:24 PM	#52
init4fun AMA 80274 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wrentham Mass. Posts: 775	[quote=Silent-AV8R We know virtually nothing about this venture yet many seem ready to accept them with open arms with little or no concern for who they are or anything else.[/QUOTE] Hi Silent-AV8R , this is exactly the reason i hate all the arguing going on . Id like to hear what this organization offers but its kinda hard to hear anything with all the bombs dropping . Would they be a good suppliment to AMA insurance ? ................Well we probablly wont know because no one seems to want to discuss this , instead of trying to drag up old conflicts .

Sep 29, 2009, 02:28 PM	#53
DreamArcher Mike Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Union City, Ca. Posts: 662	Did anybody notice "no safety code". While I'm all for that it does sound like legal Swiss cheese.

Sep 29, 2009, 02:53 PM	#54
fhhuber506771 Deletedfor proving Nauga wrong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Posts: 15,865	Re the Safety Code: If you read it and think about it... most of it is "common sense" Some of it is there (the video and self guidance parts) to try to show the FAA and other government agencies that we don't want to create weapons... Some of it is there because of "darwin award" level lack of common sense... EG: "don't fly over people" (paraphrased) is in part due to an AMA airshow team member planting a model in the crowd at a football game, killing one and severely injuring another. In other terms... the AMA Safety Code is a list of very good advice on how to be reasonably safe. Most of the RC specific guidelines do expect an aircraft that is over 3 lbs and faster than 50 mph... We probably need to develop a separate indoor RC section.

Sep 29, 2009, 03:17 PM	#57
bjpaul It must be a glitch Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sanford Centrl Reg, Florida, United States Posts: 3,139	Go to the AMA Website and pull up the 2008 FS. The total expense for insurance (membership & general) was ~$1.2 million. That comes to about $10.00 per full dues paying member.