How To Convert A Byron F-16 Jet To Electric - Page 2

racer1 · Sep 20, 2009, 09:05 PM

If all else fails contact Robert at EJF.com.

We have done a number of Byron conversions, F-16, F-15, A4.

The A4 is a complete rebuild to use a Dynamax/Scorpion conversion, if there is enough interest I can post the rebuild on a thread.

There are a number of different ways to go.

Robert can help weight different options.

Clay

Littlescreamers · Sep 20, 2009, 09:16 PM

I think it is funny how he says in his video that he is going to be using the XPS system but it seems nobody is happy with that and are trying to change his mind???

Scott

racer1 · Sep 20, 2009, 10:15 PM

I guess I should have watched the video before I posted.

My Bad. OOPs

Clay

JimDrew · Sep 20, 2009, 10:41 PM

Besides the Dynamax Xtreme fan system, we will be offering a simple bolt-in adapter for Byron aircraft. This lets you mount the Dynamax fan with the original bolt holes found in all Byron setups.

flyboy1945 · Sep 21, 2009, 07:22 PM

Billy D is a member of the Nighthawks RC Club in North Jackson Ohio and a friend of mine, he seen the XPS motor I have and got first hand info on it.We will be helping him with the conversion if he needs it.Plus I know all of you will have valuable info for him also,have fun Billy.

BILLYDSRC · Sep 29, 2009, 01:56 AM

Here are some pics.and I'm open to any help.I want to build to stand speeds of 170mhp+ for down the road??? THANK YOU BILLY D

Madmax1965 · Sep 29, 2009, 09:05 AM

170mph may be a little wishful thinking but good luck on your build. I converted the Byron F-86.....great flying plane but they are not fast. As stated above pay attention to the tailfeathers.

lashmett75 · Sep 29, 2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madmax1965

170mph may be a little wishful thinking but good luck on your build. I converted the Byron F-86.....great flying plane but they are not fast. As stated above pay attention to the tailfeathers.

Agreed. Top speed at 170 is going to be very hard to achieve. Bruff converted one and I think his did 130. Dont get me wrong TONS OF POWER, but not for speed. Nice work removeing the covering and old work. Looks much better, and starting from almost scratch makes it more of you own. Good Luck.

James

rvincent · Sep 29, 2009, 09:53 AM

If he was using a Byron fan and Hacker Turbo I would agree with you guys, but with the Dynamax XPS Xtreme Scream and efflux over 270 mph, I think 160 is VERY do-able

lashmett75 · Sep 29, 2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvincent

If he was using a Byron fan and Hacker Turbo I would agree with you guys, but with the Dynamax XPS Xtreme Scream and efflux over 270 mph, I think 160 is VERY do-able

This is true. Im pretty sure he was using the Byron/Hacker combo. I keep forgetting about the "new" stuff getting ready to hit the market.

My wallet is already starting to quiver

James

flyboy1945 · Sep 29, 2009, 04:46 PM

I know what he is going to use,the Dynamax XPS Xtreme Scream outfit

gunradd · Sep 29, 2009, 08:08 PM

The airframe is way to draggy to hit 170 with current EDF systems unless you dive it straight down. I would glass the wings I had problems with the wings warping on mine. The dynamax system would need to put out almost 2 times the power the EVF5612 puts out. 130mph looks great and fast enough its a huge airframe and thats a good scale speed. Even Pauls would do about 135 with Freds dynamax. To make this plane go even faster would take a whole lot more power.

Are you going to do intake ducting? If you want good speeds you will need proper ducting and then find a way to mount the nose gear so you would need a folding nose gear and design formers to hold it. I learned the hard way and it is what it is. Its a byron and its not worth retrofitting the whole aircraft just stick the fan in with an intake ring and fly with the cheater hole.I also had to drill 2 sets of holes on the spar to hold the wings on because the single screw would loosen up at high speeds. Make sure you dont have play in the stock aileron set up. If you do you might need to move the servos to the wings. Do you have the big yoke for the stab? I had the yoke on mine and loved it. Some people like using separate servos for it.
Good luck

kevin · Sep 29, 2009, 08:28 PM

it would be pretty tough to get a byron f-16 up to 170..its not the cleanest f-16 out there...and even if you could its probably not a good idea unless you completely reenginner all of the control surfaces and the fin.

BILLYDSRC · Sep 30, 2009, 06:10 PM

I was just going to try to build the plane to handle 170mph not that it will go that fast. What do you all suggest I use for a non digital servos on the elevators?

SON OF PALEFACE · Oct 01, 2009, 05:49 AM

Here's mine from 1983....

Sep 21, 2009, 07:22 PM	#20
flyboy1945 Were's the plane? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warren,Ohio Posts: 170	Billy D is a member of the Nighthawks RC Club in North Jackson Ohio and a friend of mine, he seen the XPS motor I have and got first hand info on it.We will be helping him with the conversion if he needs it.Plus I know all of you will have valuable info for him also,have fun Billy. Last edited by flyboy1945; Sep 21, 2009 at 11:35 PM.

Sep 29, 2009, 01:56 AM	#21
BILLYDSRC JUST HAVE FUN! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: AUSTINTOWN,OHIO Posts: 27	THIS What I got done today Here are some pics.and I'm open to any help.I want to build to stand speeds of 170mhp+ for down the road??? THANK YOU BILLY D Attached Thumbnails 86.1 KB · Views: 137 76.8 KB · Views: 70 68.3 KB · Views: 68 67.9 KB · Views: 63 60.8 KB · Views: 65 69.6 KB · Views: 86 86.7 KB · Views: 72 79.4 KB · Views: 55 89.2 KB · Views: 49 82.5 KB · Views: 57 65.9 KB · Views: 55 68.8 KB · Views: 46 67.9 KB · Views: 58 69.8 KB · Views: 45 81.4 KB · Views: 66 74.7 KB · Views: 57 74.6 KB · Views: 59 80.8 KB · Views: 62 80.1 KB · Views: 72 65.5 KB · Views: 64 83.6 KB · Views: 88 83.6 KB · Views: 62 88.2 KB · Views: 52 72.3 KB · Views: 54 76.7 KB · Views: 57 74.2 KB · Views: 61 71.1 KB · Views: 52 74.1 KB · Views: 86

Sep 30, 2009, 06:10 PM	#29
BILLYDSRC JUST HAVE FUN! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: AUSTINTOWN,OHIO Posts: 27	I was just going to try to build the plane to handle 170mph not that it will go that fast. What do you all suggest I use for a non digital servos on the elevators? Last edited by BILLYDSRC; Sep 30, 2009 at 08:08 PM.

Oct 01, 2009, 05:49 AM	#30
SON OF PALEFACE Ozzie Express wiggy pilot Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: YANKALILLA , SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Posts: 3,050	Here's mine from 1983.... Attached Thumbnails First Ducted fan to fly at an Aussie Nats 65.3 KB · Views: 91 dast me on the left 63.2 KB · Views: 103

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Sep 20, 2009, 09:05 PM	#16
racer1 5kW Club Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 165	If all else fails contact Robert at EJF.com. We have done a number of Byron conversions, F-16, F-15, A4. The A4 is a complete rebuild to use a Dynamax/Scorpion conversion, if there is enough interest I can post the rebuild on a thread. There are a number of different ways to go. Robert can help weight different options. Clay

Sep 20, 2009, 09:16 PM	#17
Littlescreamers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Edmonds Wa. (Seattle) Posts: 3,653	I think it is funny how he says in his video that he is going to be using the XPS system but it seems nobody is happy with that and are trying to change his mind??? Scott

Sep 20, 2009, 10:15 PM	#18
racer1 5kW Club Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 165	I guess I should have watched the video before I posted. My Bad. OOPs Clay

Sep 20, 2009, 10:41 PM	#19
JimDrew Xtreme Power Systems Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lake Havasu, AZ Posts: 7,531	Besides the Dynamax Xtreme fan system, we will be offering a simple bolt-in adapter for Byron aircraft. This lets you mount the Dynamax fan with the original bolt holes found in all Byron setups.

Sep 29, 2009, 09:05 AM	#22
Madmax1965 Watt me worry? Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,426	170mph may be a little wishful thinking but good luck on your build. I converted the Byron F-86.....great flying plane but they are not fast. As stated above pay attention to the tailfeathers.

Sep 29, 2009, 09:53 AM	#24
rvincent 20,000 Screaming Watts! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fontana, California, United States Posts: 17,665	If he was using a Byron fan and Hacker Turbo I would agree with you guys, but with the Dynamax XPS Xtreme Scream and efflux over 270 mph, I think 160 is VERY do-able

Sep 29, 2009, 04:46 PM	#26
flyboy1945 Were's the plane? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warren,Ohio Posts: 170	I know what he is going to use,the Dynamax XPS Xtreme Scream outfit

Sep 29, 2009, 08:08 PM	#27
gunradd Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 345	The airframe is way to draggy to hit 170 with current EDF systems unless you dive it straight down. I would glass the wings I had problems with the wings warping on mine. The dynamax system would need to put out almost 2 times the power the EVF5612 puts out. 130mph looks great and fast enough its a huge airframe and thats a good scale speed. Even Pauls would do about 135 with Freds dynamax. To make this plane go even faster would take a whole lot more power. Are you going to do intake ducting? If you want good speeds you will need proper ducting and then find a way to mount the nose gear so you would need a folding nose gear and design formers to hold it. I learned the hard way and it is what it is. Its a byron and its not worth retrofitting the whole aircraft just stick the fan in with an intake ring and fly with the cheater hole.I also had to drill 2 sets of holes on the spar to hold the wings on because the single screw would loosen up at high speeds. Make sure you dont have play in the stock aileron set up. If you do you might need to move the servos to the wings. Do you have the big yoke for the stab? I had the yoke on mine and loved it. Some people like using separate servos for it. Good luck

Sep 29, 2009, 08:28 PM	#28
kevin Registered EDF abUser Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: ohio Posts: 2,498	it would be pretty tough to get a byron f-16 up to 170..its not the cleanest f-16 out there...and even if you could its probably not a good idea unless you completely reenginner all of the control surfaces and the fin.