Windrider Habicht - Page 7

suirendoujin · Nov 06, 2009, 10:10 PM

Ben D Wing,
Congratulaions on your successful maiden. Yeah, you beat me. And this was not the first time something like this has happened.
You have added virtually ALL the scale details that I had intended to add to mine. Only differnce would be, I plan on making mine resemble the replica in Germany right now. Will make and stick Wasserkuppe logo on my tail.
Looking forward to your next flight report. And again, congrats!!

Ben D Wing · Nov 07, 2009, 03:09 AM

Thanks to all for the kind remarks, much appreciated.

Suirendoujin, I'm sorry to have beaten you to the first flight, it was not my intention to have it happen this way. I hope you get yours finished really soon and that your maiden goes as well as mine did. This glider is a really nice flier and you won't be disappointed.
Anyway, good luck and hurry up please!

Ming · Nov 07, 2009, 02:05 PM

Free shipping for BD-5J, Fox, SBD and Habicht before 25-Dec!

Ming Lou

TFLG · Nov 07, 2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ming

Free shipping for BD-5J, Fox, SBD and Habicht before 25-Dec!

Ming Lou

Damn you! why must you temp me so.......

Ben D Wing · Nov 08, 2009, 03:13 PM

Whilst browsing the 'net for more vintage gliders I noticed something very prominant that I had omitted from my Habicht, mainly the registration mark on the lower wing surfaces. On gliders of the 30's and 40's the registration mark appears to be split between both wings where today most are on one wing only. So, without further delay I printed off the registration mark at the correct font and size and got very intimate with a scalpel! The single letter, hyphen and four numbers were all cut free hand and belive it or not the whole job took nearly 3 hours from start to finish, which is a bit longer than I thought it would, because the longest job was accurately marking out the wings for precise placement of the numbers. The gell CofG buttons can just be seen (if you've got good eyes!) adjacent to the front of the number '1' and cutting through the top of the number '9'
I'm still toying with the idea of fitting the tail skid as this is a prominant feature too, but I'm fearful it'll have a very short life on the slopes where I fly and may even damage the bottom of the fuz. Ideally it should be installed before the rudder post is epoxied in. If anyone else adds this detail I would be very interested in seeing how you install it.

AeroNut45 · Nov 09, 2009, 05:57 AM

Couldn't hold back any longer, I ordered one.

Now I can't wait. Will post my pictures here when it is finally ready for maiden.

Fell in love with it when I took this picture at an airshow in Germany in 2006.

Ben D Wing · Nov 09, 2009, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroNut45

Couldn't hold back any longer, I ordered one.

Now I can't wait. Will post my pictures here when it is finally ready for maiden.

Fell in love with it when I took this picture at an airshow in Germany in 2006.

Good man, you won't regret it, plus you'll get yours shipping free you lucky b*gger!!

I will say that this kit is far better than some of the 'other' Chinese glider kits on the market and the glass fuz is of really good quality, the finish on mine being perfect. If I had to mark it down at all, then the clevises could be of better quality, but that's about all.
Anyway, good luck with the build and I guess from your photo that you've ordered the red version? Looking forward to your build AeroNut.
BTW, I decided to modify the aileron linkage after considering your previous post (see pic) and I can now get +30mm, -20mm movement on them. This should increase the roll rate quite a bit and I have been able to reduce the differential in the Tx too. Thanks for the nudge on that issue.

P.S.
If you're reading this Ming (and I suspect that you are), how about a 1/4 scale LO-100 next? Only 2.5 Meter wing span, but nice and chunky!

salisbug · Nov 12, 2009, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeroNut45

Couldn't hold back any longer, I ordered one.

Now I can't wait. Will post my pictures here when it is finally ready for maiden.

Fell in love with it when I took this picture at an airshow in Germany in 2006.

Good on you Knut. I'm sure you wont be disappionted.

Glenn

Slope P · Nov 14, 2009, 06:12 PM

Orderd my Habicht a few days ago from Nitromodels here in the US and it came yesterday. First impresson was " man, this is nice." It seem heavy but from the vids that Ming put on u-tube, it seems to fly great.

Hey Ming, can the wing take a hi-start?

LP

AeroNut45 · Nov 14, 2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slope P

Orderd my Habicht a few days ago from Nitromodels here in the US and it came yesterday. First impresson was " man, this is nice." It seem heavy but from the vids that Ming put on u-tube, it seems to fly great.

Hey Ming, can the wing take a hi-start?

LP

That will be a hard question to answer. I would guess, it depends how hard you pull with the winch, or is it with bungee?
If the wing can take the stress, I would think you would spend more time launching and retrieving your model than actually flying. Unless you got killer thermals where you fly

Ben D Wing · Nov 15, 2009, 11:57 AM

Suirendoujin, how's your progress? You must be nearly finished now and ready for the maiden flight. Report please!

I had a further 3 flights today and guess what.....I forgot my camera!

Luckily I had my mobile phone so one of my flying mates took a couple of pics for me (thanks Graham). Next time there will be some far better images.
Anyway, today I used the (now functioning) airbrakes to great effect during the landings. I have them set up on my throttle stick and they are very powerful when fully deployed and ensure slow, predictable landings. There is virtually no pitch change if they are deployed slowly (very slight pitch up) and it's very easy to adjust the glide path to suit. More loops and stall turns were tried and with the extra movement I now have on the ailerons the roll rate is about one in 2 seconds, which is fast enough for a scale ship like the Habicht. I also tried some side slipping and the large rudder makes this manoeuvre easy to execute, but don't try it at low speed or it will tip stall, surprise, surprise!

Inverted flight is easy with little forward pressure required on the stick (I have rearward CofG), but IMO it just doesn't look right on this vintage glider. I didn't try any spins as the lift had a definate ceiling on it today so I'll try this at a later date.
Sorry for the poor photo quality, but it ata least shows the Habicht with air under it's wings.

'Till next time then............

bhchan · Nov 17, 2009, 10:42 AM

Nitroplanes has the the kit for 200.00. Same one?

Brian, an EAJ

Ben D Wing · Nov 17, 2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhchan

Nitroplanes has the the kit for 200.00. Same one?

Brian, an EAJ

Yes.

Slope P · Nov 18, 2009, 08:36 AM

received mine from Nitroplanes just a few days ago and yes, it is the same one. Beautiful fuse. It was ideed $200 plus $26 for shipping.

bhchan · Nov 18, 2009, 10:49 AM

Now thy have free shipping till 11/21!! I have to pay sales tax.

Brian, an EAJ

Nov 06, 2009, 10:10 PM	#91
suirendoujin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Far East Posts: 596	Ben D Wing, Congratulaions on your successful maiden. Yeah, you beat me. And this was not the first time something like this has happened. You have added virtually ALL the scale details that I had intended to add to mine. Only differnce would be, I plan on making mine resemble the replica in Germany right now. Will make and stick Wasserkuppe logo on my tail. Looking forward to your next flight report. And again, congrats!! Last edited by suirendoujin; Nov 07, 2009 at 05:55 AM.

Nov 07, 2009, 03:09 AM	#92
Ben D Wing Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Peak District Posts: 803	Thanks to all for the kind remarks, much appreciated. Suirendoujin, I'm sorry to have beaten you to the first flight, it was not my intention to have it happen this way. I hope you get yours finished really soon and that your maiden goes as well as mine did. This glider is a really nice flier and you won't be disappointed. Anyway, good luck and hurry up please! Last edited by Ben D Wing; Nov 07, 2009 at 05:35 AM.

Nov 08, 2009, 03:13 PM	#95
Ben D Wing Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Peak District Posts: 803	Whilst browsing the 'net for more vintage gliders I noticed something very prominant that I had omitted from my Habicht, mainly the registration mark on the lower wing surfaces. On gliders of the 30's and 40's the registration mark appears to be split between both wings where today most are on one wing only. So, without further delay I printed off the registration mark at the correct font and size and got very intimate with a scalpel! The single letter, hyphen and four numbers were all cut free hand and belive it or not the whole job took nearly 3 hours from start to finish, which is a bit longer than I thought it would, because the longest job was accurately marking out the wings for precise placement of the numbers. The gell CofG buttons can just be seen (if you've got good eyes!) adjacent to the front of the number '1' and cutting through the top of the number '9' I'm still toying with the idea of fitting the tail skid as this is a prominant feature too, but I'm fearful it'll have a very short life on the slopes where I fly and may even damage the bottom of the fuz. Ideally it should be installed before the rudder post is epoxied in. If anyone else adds this detail I would be very interested in seeing how you install it. Attached Thumbnails Registration marking is computer generated and hand cut from domestic self adhesive vinyl (Fablon) and ironed down to seal in position with a very low heat on the iron. 59.7 KB · Views: 54

Nov 09, 2009, 05:57 AM	#96
AeroNut45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Keysborough,Victoria,Australia Posts: 1,060	Couldn't hold back any longer, I ordered one. Now I can't wait. Will post my pictures here when it is finally ready for maiden. Fell in love with it when I took this picture at an airshow in Germany in 2006. Attached Thumbnails 129.7 KB · Views: 80 Last edited by AeroNut45; Nov 09, 2009 at 06:17 AM.

Nov 15, 2009, 11:57 AM	#101
Ben D Wing Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Peak District Posts: 803	Suirendoujin, how's your progress? You must be nearly finished now and ready for the maiden flight. Report please! I had a further 3 flights today and guess what.....I forgot my camera! Luckily I had my mobile phone so one of my flying mates took a couple of pics for me (thanks Graham). Next time there will be some far better images. Anyway, today I used the (now functioning) airbrakes to great effect during the landings. I have them set up on my throttle stick and they are very powerful when fully deployed and ensure slow, predictable landings. There is virtually no pitch change if they are deployed slowly (very slight pitch up) and it's very easy to adjust the glide path to suit. More loops and stall turns were tried and with the extra movement I now have on the ailerons the roll rate is about one in 2 seconds, which is fast enough for a scale ship like the Habicht. I also tried some side slipping and the large rudder makes this manoeuvre easy to execute, but don't try it at low speed or it will tip stall, surprise, surprise! Inverted flight is easy with little forward pressure required on the stick (I have rearward CofG), but IMO it just doesn't look right on this vintage glider. I didn't try any spins as the lift had a definate ceiling on it today so I'll try this at a later date. Sorry for the poor photo quality, but it ata least shows the Habicht with air under it's wings. 'Till next time then............ Attached Thumbnails Habicht on landing approach from the east, airbrakes yet to be deployed. 61.4 KB · Views: 68 Habicht on a southerly fly-by. 62.4 KB · Views: 67

Nov 07, 2009, 02:05 PM	#93
Ming Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2,622	Free shipping for BD-5J, Fox, SBD and Habicht before 25-Dec! Ming Lou

Nov 14, 2009, 06:12 PM	#99
Slope P Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Santa Fe NM Posts: 50	Orderd my Habicht a few days ago from Nitromodels here in the US and it came yesterday. First impresson was " man, this is nice." It seem heavy but from the vids that Ming put on u-tube, it seems to fly great. Hey Ming, can the wing take a hi-start? LP

Nov 17, 2009, 10:42 AM	#102
bhchan Electric Airplane Junkie Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Mateo, Ca , USA Posts: 4,407	Nitroplanes has the the kit for 200.00. Same one? Brian, an EAJ

Nov 18, 2009, 08:36 AM	#104
Slope P Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Santa Fe NM Posts: 50	received mine from Nitroplanes just a few days ago and yes, it is the same one. Beautiful fuse. It was ideed $200 plus $26 for shipping.

Nov 18, 2009, 10:49 AM	#105
bhchan Electric Airplane Junkie Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Mateo, Ca , USA Posts: 4,407	Now thy have free shipping till 11/21!! I have to pay sales tax. Brian, an EAJ