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Old Sep 20, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Hi Paintrain I think what your trying to accomplish here is awesome.
I'm curious as to why Belt CP V2 wasn't menchaned in your heli options.
I picked mine up for $179, not bad for a heli who's MSRP is above $300 and has HH gyro and 2.4GHz radio. Several sites sell it for around this or cheaper everyday. Main gear, feathering shaft, blades, and tailboom (parts most likely to replace after crash) are pretty cheap.
Hi Starbuckin,

I had not seen anyone post about the Belt CP V2 as a viable option for a beginner. I should probably include this one as the last option between the Quark and the T-Rex. I'll get the info tomorrow and add it to the post. However, I would consider this an Advanced level heli. Wouldn't you?

I like your maiden flight video. I'm surprised you didn't shoot the heli when it first launched. LOL I guess you were prepared for anything.

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Added Belt CP V2 info for starter options. Labled as Intermediate/Advanced.
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Old Sep 20, 2009, 11:59 PM
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Many of us started with the free / basic FMS simulator. Physics /graphics aren't the best, but are adequate for basic flight and orientation. Models customizable, and many models available.

Mike
Added it to the list. Thanks, MikeSt.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 04:25 AM
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Hi Starbuckin,

However, I would consider this an Advanced level heli. Wouldn't you?

EDIT:

Added Belt CP V2 info for starter options. Labled as Intermediate/Advanced.
Well, It's certainly capable of advanced stuff, but is more stabel than most F.P.'s (If properly set up) so I'm told. I've also read posts were several people started with the Belt C.P. as their VER FIRST heli and stuck with it until they were doing 3D.
I think with the proper attitude and for the price, you can't go wrong with it.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 08:53 AM
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Can't find PreFlightSim in the flightsim-list

http://www.preflightsim.com

Variable Physics realism, All popular models in superheli-edition (40$)
Real 3D option, using dual picture or red/green glasses.

Seems to work with all kind of controllers. I'm using E-Sky USB.
Flying HBFP and HBCP in real life.


Also AeroFly http://www.aerofly.com/ is missing. This one is also available for MacOS.

Other Mac sims:
RCHS http://www.alphamacsoftware.com
CRRCSim http://crrcsim.berlios.de/wiki (multiplatform)

both free at this moment.


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Old Sep 23, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Starbuckin,

I'll make note of that in the list.

AdriaanS,

I will add the sims to the list.

Thanks for all your help guys and gals. I hope this information is helping out some new fresh pilots.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 01:11 PM
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Real 3D option, using dual picture or red/green glasses.
Really?! Freeeeeky

I could never get Pre-flight to work on my old computer though - haven't tried it on the new one.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 03:36 PM
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Added new sims and comments to CP V2. You can see for the sims section there is good comparison list linked on there. I wanted to capture the sims people on this forum recommend which is why I have added the ones posted on this thread.
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Old Sep 23, 2009, 06:01 PM
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Thanks PainTrain.

Here's a few more to complete the list

-Realitycraft http://www.realitycraft.com/sims.php

-Heli-X http://www.heli-x.net/index_e.shtml

-Slope Soaring Simulator http://www.rowlhouse.co.uk/sss/index.html


I also found the Comparison Chart a little out of date. Especially ClearView did improve a lot last year.

BTW will this thread be made sticky?

Jasmine, careful with the cross-eye dual picture option. You might have to change your own picture soon.
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Old Sep 24, 2009, 10:09 AM
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AdriaanS,

I'm not sure who stickies threads in this forum. Perhaps we can petition for it to be stickied. Anyone know the answer to this?
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Old Sep 26, 2009, 01:36 AM
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Sounds like a GREAT ideah, since this is the beginner forum and you've put lots of work into this and graciously accepted input from beginners and experts alike.
(I'd have to call Jasmine an "expert" after over 8,000 posts and from the vids I've seen).
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Old Sep 26, 2009, 01:49 AM
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Hehe... thanks

I am pretty good with building these things and getting them working right, but I can't fly too good yet. This is my flying level right now, and I'm happy with that for a while, although I can do some backwards flight and tic-tocks, I haven't got it on video yet.

Trex 500 at Arvada Modelers Club (4 min 59 sec)
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Old Sep 26, 2009, 01:30 PM
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Starbuckin,

I saw your video. You are not only doing great, you are doing it right by installing the training gear. Just keep scooting and hopping that Belt CP around. You'll get there.

Also, the Belt CP V2 is a great heli. I'm a fan of the Esky helis. I began with the Esky HBFP and then the Esky HBK2, my first CP heli. I now fly a Mini Titan E325; however, my HBK2 and HBFP continue to get some of my stick time.
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Old Sep 27, 2009, 09:16 PM
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I still want to add the Tx, Charger, and Battery to the Additional Cost section. I just picked up a new DX7 for $160 (which I am very happy about). Now it is all about getting more practice with the MSR, making a decision on which sim I am going to go with, and figuring out some good options for a beginner's charger.


Adrian,

I added more SIMS to the list. Looks like the first heli option part is pretty solid.
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Old Sep 28, 2009, 03:00 PM
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Sticky and Update.

Paintrain,

I sent in a request to make this thread sticky. Quite easy, just click 'report to moderator' and choose the make sticky option.

Found a few other sims:
FS One http://www.fsone.com/ No demo found. JR and E-flite heli's only.
R/C Sim Sikorsky http://home.zonnet.nl/blacksphere/rcsim.html


Also updated the RealityCraft link. Tested the demo, which is limited to 11 flights of 3 minutes max.
Flying feels natural, but there's only a slow big chopper in the demo.
Graphics not very advanced, sheep cannot be flown thru .

btw. Will there be a review section for each flightsim, or just links to existing threads?

I'll hear from you.

grtz. Adrian.
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Old Sep 28, 2009, 08:43 PM
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In my original plan, I was hoping to have members rate the items on these lists. IE: rate the heli for a beginner from 1 - 10. Rate the Tx for a beginner. Rate the Sims based on realism and training efficiency for a beginner. Most of the questions asked in this section of the forum has much to do with personal preference and an average rating should do that.
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