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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:10 AM
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KE spins are just fine with this plane, she's a performer all around.
5:30 mark of this video has a KE spin also...

an Extra fun movie... (7 min 37 sec)
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:19 AM
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How are knife edge spins done?
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:33 AM
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:37 AM
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WOOT!
a big brown box just arrived that says 3d hobby shop on it!!!!!!

man i ordered this thing yesterday!!! awesome service (as usuall)
now ive got something to do over the windy weekend!

cant wait!

thanks for the vid KM, ill check that out soon. ive got goodies to unbox now
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:39 AM
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I can tell you what works for me but others may tell you different. I put the plane in a vertical climb and when I'm at the altitude I want to be at I stall the plane to the right so the right wing is down and the left wing is up with the top of the plane facing me. I then give it full left rudder and 1/3- 1/2 throttle and the right stick I give full down elevator and full left aileron at the same time to get started. Once it gets started I give it a little less left aileron but still maintain full down elevator and full left rudder and 1/2 throttle. This is just my .02. It is working for me. If there is better way, which I'm sure there is, others will chime in.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:44 AM
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great post, there are lots of ways to enter it. i think ben has told me he likes to enter them from a tumble.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:59 AM
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How are knife edge spins done?
Its always interesting to me to see how many different ways people get into the KE spin. What always works for me on all of my planes is enter from a right stall turn and just as the nose passes 3 oclock go to full down elevator and full left rudder ....1/2 to 3/4 throttle...no aileron at all for me unless the plane starts into a regular spin in which case if the Ill goose the aileron(left if inverted ,right if upright). To exit I usually just throw full right rudder and hold everything else and she enters a inverted flatpin.

Also the more elevator throw the better...CG slightly back of neutral makes it easier.

Spinning tricks are great tricks to learn only require simple stick inputs an not much fineness.....I learned them pretty quickly. They are real crowd pleasers so well worth getting the spins down. Now if only I could get the 3d stuff down...much harder IMO.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 01:14 PM
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The key to a good roller is the throttle pulse.
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Other's may disagree with me on this, but IMO it's not as critical with electrics to worry about pulsing the throttle while performing rolling harriers. The reason the gas flyers do it is to keep the gas engines from loading up. I believe some planes do have a spot in the roll that hesitates a little and the throttle can be pulsed to try to keep the roll rate constant.

I'm no expert at rolling harriers, but have gotten fairly consistent with them, at least rolling to the left. I just set the throttle and modulate up and down a notch or two as needed to maintain altitude. As for myself, it's enough to just worry about working the rudder and elevator without having to worry also about pulsing the throttle in time with the roll rate.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 01:36 PM
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Other's may disagree with me on this, but IMO it's not as critical with electrics to worry about pulsing the throttle while performing rolling harriers. The reason the gas flyers do it is to keep the gas engines from loading up. I believe some planes do have a spot in the roll that hesitates a little and the throttle can be pulsed to try to keep the roll rate constant.

I'm no expert at rolling harriers, but have gotten fairly consistent with them, at least rolling to the left. I just set the throttle and modulate up and down a notch or two as needed to maintain altitude. As for myself, it's enough to just worry about working the rudder and elevator without having to worry also about pulsing the throttle in time with the roll rate.

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Hmmmm..
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 01:38 PM
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the key is having the thrust when you need it... you don't need to pulse the throttle really. I have to add conscious effort to even remove the throttle pulsing. In general it's there because my thumb isn't naturally getting side to side as horizontally as it could.

What's more important is making sure you can control thrust in general as you need it... and I'm happily mashing and munging the stick on the throttle axis generally well enough to make me happy


Even though I'm trying to remove the pulse, I'll need it back when playing with gassers, so, whatever.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 01:45 PM
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Even though I'm trying to remove the pulse, I'll need it back when playing with gassers, so, whatever.
Yep, I'll have to add the pulsing eventually as well for exactly that reason. Hopefully by then I'll have the stick stirs down well enough that I'll be able to concentrate on pulsing the throttle as well.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 01:49 PM
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Hmmmm..
I haven't put my flamesuit on yet, but it's at the ready!

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 01:52 PM
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I've seen it work well either way. I don't pulse much anymore, but I understand the rationale behind it. Actually, I should say, I don't pulse much on some planes anymore. I'll have to actually watch myself at SEFF and see what I actually do...I know I pulse the Velox, I don't pulse the 87" much. Hmmm...
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Hmmm. Watching a couple videos...I guess I'm not pulsing anything anymore in rhythm with the roll.
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Old Mar 31, 2010, 02:31 PM
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How are knife edge spins done?
Turn around once in place, pull twice on your left ear lobe, stand on one foot, say a quick pray to Saint Andrew of Jesky then jam the sticks into the corners.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 02:39 PM
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yes..but which corners?
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