36" Shelly Foss build..revisited - Page 5

more coffee · Oct 03, 2009, 09:42 AM

Little more progress ..made a motor mount out off some scrap aluminium left behind by the sparkies at work ..

Its the first time I fabbed a motor mount ..OHH and it had to be for twin screw..

more coffee · Oct 03, 2009, 01:05 PM

Motor's and mount in place ..PL Premium was the glue, bonds wood ,metal ,foam ,finger's and eyelids

Kmot · Oct 03, 2009, 01:37 PM

Looks like a powerful, beastly setup!

more coffee · Oct 03, 2009, 03:53 PM

Thanks Kmot... I really hope so ..the motor's turn about 3600-5000rpm ..they have gob's of torque

I'll see how she handles the 3 blade prop's ..if all is well I'll switch out for the same style only 4 blade , maybe 5 blade ..

Churn and burn

more coffee · Oct 03, 2009, 06:00 PM

Here's some shots of the greaser I use to lube my tube's ..I got it from a Stihl chainsaw dealer years ago to lubricate the hammer's in my impact gun ..

I fill it with white grease for the boats ..easily shoots grease in the tube with little pressure ..Its just a little pusher pumper

more coffee · Oct 03, 2009, 07:02 PM

Well everything being equal ..the salvaged motor isnt doing its thing ..after 5 minutes of operation ..it gets warmer than the new one..and is noticeably slower than the new one i had installed ...

Need to find some overtime ..some where ..

more coffee · Oct 05, 2009, 06:01 PM

A little more progress.. the lower superstructure .. untill my leds show up I cant put the roof on ..

The build here differ's from the plan ..the 1/8 ply supplied was lame and when wetted to bend the veneer began to lift and the grain raised everywhere ..So i swapped it out with 1/16 Midwest ply ..really made a difference in bending around the front of the structure. I used the 1/8 ply to bolster the aft bulkhead ....approx 2 inches ..thats all ..

the wheel house, mast ,funnel are next again pending the leds.

more coffee · Oct 11, 2009, 09:14 PM

No spectacular progress but some ..

Kmot · Oct 11, 2009, 09:52 PM

Slow and sure will get the job done!

more coffee · Oct 12, 2009, 10:53 AM

Thanks Kmot..

The water intake for the fire monitor is fabbed ..as per Umi's suggestion.The screen is stainless ..from an aerator out of a facet ..$3 at Crappy Tire for the whole assembly ..It should be noted that Stainless steel cannot be soldered .but one can sink it in a pool of molten solder

...it was all i could find..
I used two grommets ..the idea is i will obtain two beads of epoxy to seal the joint ..i do plan to use an extra piece of ply-wood to add some strength against the hull ..
I also lightly tapped the inside collar ( short one) to bring it out-off-round ...this allows the two pieces to be pressed tightly and need not be clamped ..just a little interference fit .. I have an extra piece of tube same I'D' as the sleeve to push it down

Anybody remember the thread where the builder made his own ladder's

?..think it was a Model Slippway's kit and it was a tug ...really like to see that again ..

Kmot · Oct 12, 2009, 12:32 PM

That's a lot of work and bother just for a water intake isn't it?? Or is it supposed to be a scale looking and working thing?

Heck, it if were me I would just have used any old water cooling style pickup. And if worried about detritus in the incoming water I would simply install an inline filter in the silicone tubing.

http://www.greathobbies.com/producti...od_id=DTXC2551

more coffee · Oct 12, 2009, 02:59 PM

Hi Tom .. yes and no on the bother ..I do want it to look right or at least semi- to what it should look like ....I have a windshield washer pump to make for a working monitor

A few years ago i sacked the hobby store they had K&S Engineering bags (4 of them ) on the shelf, loaded with end cuts and shapes .... each bag was 8 bones ..so for 32 bones i got about 5 pound of brass and aluminium stuff.. i have a ton of loose stuff floating around..

To tell you the truth Tom for what it is i had figured on using just a regular fuel filter from Wall-mart ..or pillaging the one from my lawn mower..It about as big around as a quater ..maybe a tad bigger ..

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...1574_200271574

Everything said and done it took less than 10 minutes to whip one together

..

If I hadnt asked permission and wasnt so picky years ago ..I would be spinning these out on a lathe ...

Umi_Ryuzuki · Oct 12, 2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kmot

That's a lot of work and bother just for a water intake isn't it??
...

But it looks coool!

patmat2350 · Oct 12, 2009, 03:11 PM

I thought about doing one "right", haven't gotten around to it yet!
Real water pick-ups are "sea chests"... basically a boxed in space over a hole in the hull, and the hole is covered with a grating (imagine a storm sewer grating; keeps the tuna out).

Here's one:
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/marine-i...2/1?setlang=mi

more coffee · Oct 12, 2009, 04:26 PM

Sea chest ...yes ..thats the term i was grappling with ...

And your right not really a authentic representation on my part ..but in my defense, I havent been able to find shots of Shelly in dry dock ....

Next time though ..

Oct 03, 2009, 09:42 AM	#61
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Little more progress ..made a motor mount out off some scrap aluminium left behind by the sparkies at work .. Its the first time I fabbed a motor mount ..OHH and it had to be for twin screw.. Attached Thumbnails 75.7 KB · Views: 65 80.9 KB · Views: 58 Last edited by more coffee; Oct 03, 2009 at 10:04 AM.

Oct 03, 2009, 01:05 PM	#62
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Motor's and mount in place ..PL Premium was the glue, bonds wood ,metal ,foam ,finger's and eyelids Attached Thumbnails 81.6 KB · Views: 69 80.3 KB · Views: 62

Oct 03, 2009, 06:00 PM	#65
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Here's some shots of the greaser I use to lube my tube's ..I got it from a Stihl chainsaw dealer years ago to lubricate the hammer's in my impact gun .. I fill it with white grease for the boats ..easily shoots grease in the tube with little pressure ..Its just a little pusher pumper Attached Thumbnails 87.5 KB · Views: 43 75.3 KB · Views: 54 Last edited by more coffee; Oct 03, 2009 at 07:00 PM.

Oct 05, 2009, 06:01 PM	#67
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	A little more progress.. the lower superstructure .. untill my leds show up I cant put the roof on .. The build here differ's from the plan ..the 1/8 ply supplied was lame and when wetted to bend the veneer began to lift and the grain raised everywhere ..So i swapped it out with 1/16 Midwest ply ..really made a difference in bending around the front of the structure. I used the 1/8 ply to bolster the aft bulkhead ....approx 2 inches ..thats all .. the wheel house, mast ,funnel are next again pending the leds. Attached Thumbnails 69.8 KB · Views: 42 75.9 KB · Views: 36 here ..in the rear of the structure ..the last bit behind the rearmost bulkhead is where i added the extra 1/8 ply ..just to give it width and strenght 79.7 KB · Views: 45 There's gotta be room for one more clamp 87.5 KB · Views: 48 Last edited by more coffee; Oct 05, 2009 at 06:18 PM.

Oct 11, 2009, 09:14 PM	#68
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	No spectacular progress but some .. Attached Thumbnails 64.0 KB · Views: 58 43.9 KB · Views: 74

Oct 03, 2009, 01:37 PM	#63
Kmot Grumpa Tom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 5th & Main, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13,706	Looks like a powerful, beastly setup!

Oct 03, 2009, 03:53 PM	#64
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Thanks Kmot... I really hope so ..the motor's turn about 3600-5000rpm ..they have gob's of torque I'll see how she handles the 3 blade prop's ..if all is well I'll switch out for the same style only 4 blade , maybe 5 blade .. Churn and burn

Oct 03, 2009, 07:02 PM	#66
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Well everything being equal ..the salvaged motor isnt doing its thing ..after 5 minutes of operation ..it gets warmer than the new one..and is noticeably slower than the new one i had installed ... Need to find some overtime ..some where ..

Oct 11, 2009, 09:52 PM	#69
Kmot Grumpa Tom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 5th & Main, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13,706	Slow and sure will get the job done!

Oct 12, 2009, 10:53 AM	#70
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Thanks Kmot.. The water intake for the fire monitor is fabbed ..as per Umi's suggestion.The screen is stainless ..from an aerator out of a facet ..$3 at Crappy Tire for the whole assembly ..It should be noted that Stainless steel cannot be soldered .but one can sink it in a pool of molten solder ...it was all i could find.. I used two grommets ..the idea is i will obtain two beads of epoxy to seal the joint ..i do plan to use an extra piece of ply-wood to add some strength against the hull .. I also lightly tapped the inside collar ( short one) to bring it out-off-round ...this allows the two pieces to be pressed tightly and need not be clamped ..just a little interference fit .. I have an extra piece of tube same I'D' as the sleeve to push it down Anybody remember the thread where the builder made his own ladder's ?..think it was a Model Slippway's kit and it was a tug ...really like to see that again .. Attached Thumbnails 86.9 KB · Views: 54 78.9 KB · Views: 50

Oct 12, 2009, 12:32 PM	#71
Kmot Grumpa Tom Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 5th & Main, Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13,706	That's a lot of work and bother just for a water intake isn't it?? Or is it supposed to be a scale looking and working thing? Heck, it if were me I would just have used any old water cooling style pickup. And if worried about detritus in the incoming water I would simply install an inline filter in the silicone tubing. http://www.greathobbies.com/producti...od_id=DTXC2551

Oct 12, 2009, 02:59 PM	#72
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Hi Tom .. yes and no on the bother ..I do want it to look right or at least semi- to what it should look like ....I have a windshield washer pump to make for a working monitor A few years ago i sacked the hobby store they had K&S Engineering bags (4 of them ) on the shelf, loaded with end cuts and shapes .... each bag was 8 bones ..so for 32 bones i got about 5 pound of brass and aluminium stuff.. i have a ton of loose stuff floating around.. To tell you the truth Tom for what it is i had figured on using just a regular fuel filter from Wall-mart ..or pillaging the one from my lawn mower..It about as big around as a quater ..maybe a tad bigger .. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...1574_200271574 Everything said and done it took less than 10 minutes to whip one together .. If I hadnt asked permission and wasnt so picky years ago ..I would be spinning these out on a lathe ...

Oct 12, 2009, 03:11 PM	#74
patmat2350 5 copies for my mother... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Motor City Posts: 5,975	I thought about doing one "right", haven't gotten around to it yet! Real water pick-ups are "sea chests"... basically a boxed in space over a hole in the hull, and the hole is covered with a grating (imagine a storm sewer grating; keeps the tuna out). Here's one: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/marine-i...2/1?setlang=mi Last edited by patmat2350; Oct 12, 2009 at 03:17 PM.

Oct 12, 2009, 04:26 PM	#75
more coffee Cheif Bottlewasher Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In an Igloo Posts: 797	Sea chest ...yes ..thats the term i was grappling with ... And your right not really a authentic representation on my part ..but in my defense, I havent been able to find shots of Shelly in dry dock .... Next time though ..

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Discussion 36" dumas shelly foss motor question?	cain8885	Scale Boats	5	Nov 23, 2008 05:44 PM
Build Log 36" Shelly Foss build	more coffee	Scale Boats	17	Nov 18, 2008 12:14 AM
Sold Dumas Shelly Foss 36" Kit	sleepwalker	Boats (FS/W)	0	Jan 20, 2008 05:44 PM
Help! Shelly Foss 36" plans	sleepwalker	Scale Boats	0	Jan 01, 2008 02:32 PM
Discussion Shelly Foss 36"	sleepwalker	Scale Boats	3	Dec 18, 2007 09:21 PM