Mini-Review Eflite Blade CX3 modifications - Part 1

[erdnuckel2]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

Very cool

Do you have pics of dual swash? How did you do this mod?

There are several threads about dual swash mods here on RCG (dendog220, EQMOD, thesteelcube ... )

... search and you shall find

But here is a good starting point Razor:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1131506

[Razors edge 29]

If this is soo great, then why are we not all doing it?

Originally Posted by erdnuckel2

There are several threads about dual swash mods here on RCG (dendog220, EQMOD, thesteelcube ... )

... search and you shall find

But here is a good starting point Razor:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1131506

[erdnuckel2]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

If this is soo great, then why are we not all doing it?

Why am I not doing it?? How should someone who doesnt even manage to make a Lama4 BL fly with a so-called plug and play kit (wowhobbies) manage to do all the tinkering and handywork necessary for that? If you find out, please let me know ...

[Razors edge 29]

Someone should make a drop in kit - that is awesome!!! Maybe you have luck like me Sven

Originally Posted by erdnuckel2

Why am I not doing it?? How should someone who doesnt even manage to make a Lama4 BL fly with a so-called plug and play kit (wowhobbies) manage to do all the tinkering and handywork necessary for that? If you find out, please let me know ...

[erdnuckel2]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

Someone should make a drop in kit - that is awesome!!! Maybe you have luck like me Sven

You know Razor,

it is much more likely that I will just by a Kestrel 500SX once I really am of the opinion I am at least decent at flying my lama than that I will ever try to DIY one of these awesome double swash mods ... ( )

Sad thing that walkera brings one sub micro fp after the other (the same as eflite did bring a sub-micro ... ) what about the people who want a little more fp than 20cm rotor, but don't have the space to fly the 50+ cm (of an HBFP) ???

I don't get it - is anybody listening to the customer?? the kestrel SX500 is the only fp I know that has a reasonable size (that would [still] also work inside!)

Sven

[Razors edge 29]

Yeah, stumblebee hasa kestrel and he likes it...talk to him about them if your interested

Originally Posted by erdnuckel2

You know Razor,

it is much more likely that I will just by a Kestrel 500SX once I really am of the opinion I am at least decent at flying my lama than that I will ever try to DIY one of these awesome double swash mods ... ( )

Sad thing that walkera brings one sub micro fp after the other (the same as eflite did bring a sub-micro ... ) what about the people who want a little more fp than 20cm rotor, but don't have the space to fly the 50+ cm (of an HBFP) ???

I don't get it - is anybody listening to the customer?? the kestrel SX500 is the only fp I know that has a reasonable size (that would [still] also work inside!)

Sven

[EQMOD]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

I dont think they can make a coaxial rc heli that can handle wind, too many restriction with flybar and independant control over rotors is what I was told; I am not too sure, but it would be awesome!! The worlds fastest heli is a coaxial

Size does not matter. We should design helis than cut through wind and not just overcome it or punch through it with bigger motors and rotors.

Factors include;

- Body/chassis aerodynamics: the lesser the heli surface for the wind to vane on, the more 'wind' controllable the heli would be. Even if the heli is very small;

Walkera 4#3B: Extreme wind fight (1 min 48 sec)

- More volume in cyclic induced rotor wash: Dual swash coaxials does this with twice the cyclic push power

The small Coaxial Rc Helicopter WIND FIGHT! (1 min 58 sec)

- Fix that flybar: Balance it in such a way that (1) Less wind drag, (2) More authority for stability, (3) Less authority on counteracting true pilot cyclics. Sometimes that flybar would create an upper rotor cyclic inline with the wind and against the cyclic of the lower rotors.

[Razors edge 29]

Well here is my new vid of me playing around indoors. Not a great video, but it works!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy9fR_a9aN4

[Heavy Chevy]

Razor, I hear ya! Why the frig don't they make dual swash kits? Why don't they make single rotor kits? People are doing both but I'm not ready for this amount of 'tweaking'. A drop in kit would ROCK MY WORLD!!!!!

So I tried my other charger with my big lama lipos. I just tried a fresh one and no problems.

I was charging them from my E-flite chargers which have an output of .65A

Now I've used my other chargers, they both charge at .8A and the first lipo is fine, the heli went right up. I brougth it down, watched some 'office' and then tired it again, no problems. Will try the second when it's ready.

I didn't think the charger would be the problem, is this what it was?

Note: I cut those 'things' off of the motors and it flies the same.....I believe they will stop the potential threat of a mid flight motor shut down.

[Razors edge 29]

It might be the charger; not sure. glad it still works

Originally Posted by Heavy Chevy

Razor, I hear ya! Why the frig don't they make dual swash kits? Why don't they make single rotor kits? People are doing both but I'm not ready for this amount of 'tweaking'. A drop in kit would ROCK MY WORLD!!!!!

So I tried my other charger with my big lama lipos. I just tried a fresh one and no problems.

I was charging them from my E-flite chargers which have an output of .65A

Now I've used my other chargers, they both charge at .8A and the first lipo is fine, the heli went right up. I brougth it down, watched some 'office' and then tired it again, no problems. Will try the second when it's ready.

I didn't think the charger would be the problem, is this what it was?

Note: I cut those 'things' off of the motors and it flies the same.....I believe they will stop the potential threat of a mid flight motor shut down.

[Stumblebee]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

Well here is my new vid of me playing around indoors. Not a great video, but it works!!

Hey that was a great flight until the very end but that sort of thing happens. Should we ask why there were no landing skids on that bird?

[Stumblebee]

Originally Posted by erdnuckel2

You know Razor,

it is much more likely that I will just by a Kestrel 500SX once I really am of the opinion I am at least decent at flying my lama than that I will ever try to DIY one of these awesome double swash mods ... ( )

I would be glad to share what little I know about the 500 SX with you when you are ready for that purchase. I really like that bird. I like the Free Spirit pod-and-boom version as well.

[Razors edge 29]

Thanks; I broke them off a few days before this. I think they broke because I painted them - perhaps the paint didn't react well with the plastic.

Originally Posted by Stumblebee

Hey that was a great flight until the very end but that sort of thing happens. Should we ask why there were no landing skids on that bird?

[Heavy Chevy]

Originally Posted by Razors edge 29

Thanks; I broke them off a few days before this. I think they broke because I painted them - perhaps the paint didn't react well with the plastic.

Yeah, like;y the paint, this is good to know.

What kind of paint was it?

[Razors edge 29]

Krylon plastic paint from Canadian Tire

Originally Posted by Heavy Chevy

Yeah, like;y the paint, this is good to know.

What kind of paint was it?