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Old Sep 04, 2009, 09:41 AM
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I did not nitice any body here looking down or being negitive about ÄRF people, all the tit bits I've read in this forem did acknowledge their space and reason, the question was how we can bring building back, and I interpreted it as how we can bring it back and promote it. i think that most of us don't have a problem with ARF or the people that loves to fly them, but how do we get this part of the hobby (building) to grow.
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Old Sep 04, 2009, 09:54 AM
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EINA, The topic has come up, back a couple pages.
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Old Sep 04, 2009, 10:12 AM
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I did not mean to be rude to you mode one, but the trend on this forem has been very positive so far and if one were rude or negative in general to any body in this great hobby of our's I would disaprove also, I know of a lot of folks that do not have the time but they've got the money, if they can not work at the klub they provide the materials
needed and if I say I'm better than them then one of these days I will not have a place to fly - there is space for every one. I would love for them to build anyway and will always try to encourige them to try.
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Old Sep 04, 2009, 10:34 AM
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I did not mean to be rude to you mode one, but the trend on this forem has been very positive so far and if one were rude or negative in general to any body in this great hobby of our's I would disaprove also, I know of a lot of folks that do not have the time but they've got the money, if they can not work at the klub they provide the materials
needed and if I say I'm better than them then one of these days I will not have a place to fly - there is space for every one. I would love for them to build anyway and will always try to encourige them to try.
I didn't take it as you were being rude to me, only clarifying why I had made mention of the post previous to yours, about ARFs vs Building.
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Old Sep 04, 2009, 02:51 PM
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I thoroughly enjoy designing and building. The slope soaring world is rife with excellent builders and some of the younger modelers are getting up to their elbows in epoxy and glass doing their own thing. It seems a lot more prevalent there than in other areas, but maybe that's because it's the best way to get the sloper you want given the limited ARFs available other than racers. Or maybe it's just me
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By the way if anyone knows where I can get a full size plan for a Grumman E2c Hawkeye I have been looking for about two and a half years.
I used 3-views from the airwar.ru site
Power scale sloper (PSS), all foam and fiberglass, weighs a ton and needs a gale. Two short flights in two years, but worth it.

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Old Sep 04, 2009, 09:48 PM
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Nauga I am impressed. However to my knowledge your bow (Nose) numbers are wrong.
The average US carrier carried four to I think sometimes six E2s. The numbers always started with 600 or 601. These were reserved for the commanding officer of the squadron. Then the numbering went 602, 603 etc.
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These are real E2s I managed to get my hands on. I especially like the one launching. To watch this in real life is astounding. I spent many hours on "Buzzards Roost" being a lookie loo.
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Old Sep 04, 2009, 11:22 PM
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However to my knowledge your bow (Nose) numbers are wrong.
I can assure you I am familiar with Navy Modex
In the late '60's and '70's E-2 squadrons most definitely used 7XX and 0XX series Modex.

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Old Sep 04, 2009, 11:42 PM
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Sorry I have never seen them in my twenty years in the service. But I may be wrong. It most definitely would not be the first time.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 10:28 AM
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I'm working on a group build idea that I hope will get some builders motivated. This one is not for the first time builder but rather for guys who have at least limited building experience and want to move into warbird building. However, the same idea could be applied to any type of airplane and might serve to draw in guys who might not build otherwise. Here is a link to my project.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8962908/tm.htm
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 01:52 PM
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I'm working on a group build idea that I hope will get some builders motivated.
Chad,

Great idea and project. Looks like you're getting a lot of support for it.

Are you building the prototype and then going back to build another as a group build?

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Old Sep 05, 2009, 02:46 PM
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Similar thoughts as already mentioned within this thread made me initiating several projects like this Workshop.. The ARF is a 1250x800x6 mm large sheet of depron...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...7#post13045280

It is about a Mig 3 warbird
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...mentid=2734437

I dont think that material is an imporant fact to define a scratchbuilt
as long it is made from scratch .. cut the parts ; shaped the fuse ( additionally created the plans - but I dont want to go too far!

As someone is willing to learn, this he is reaching for total freedom - to see a bird - to get the drawings of the original one - ( USAF Museum was very helpful with this in the past - and also the German National " Museum für Technik" ) and just build it as a proto! - whatever results out of this -drawings or kit- is just a matter to time and "service" as basic techniques like using a jigsaw or a cutter sould also be able to be performed by the participants or following builders!!!

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Old Sep 05, 2009, 03:19 PM
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Chad,

Great idea and project. Looks like you're getting a lot of support for it.

Are you building the prototype and then going back to build another as a group build?

EJWash
I have taken over 500 photos of the prototype build which I will use to Illustrate the group build. I may or may not build a second airplane myself but it won't be necessary for the group build to proceed. I will fly my prototype in primer and, while the group starts to build, I will continue with the detailing and painting process as well as keeping the web site up to date.
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Chad,
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I will continue with the detailing and painting process as well as keeping the web site up to date.
How's the short kit coming, and when do you expect to get the first (of many - I hope) group build rolling?

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Old Sep 05, 2009, 06:13 PM
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Chad,

How's the short kit coming, and when do you expect to get the first (of many - I hope) group build rolling?

EJWash
I have most of what I need to start producing the short kits already. Still need to do a bit of work on some of the vacuum forming plugs to bring them up to a production standard. Also need to get the laser files set up for production. I'd like to be shipping kits within the first week or two of October. Hopefully this is not overly optimistic! The prototype is actually a bit further along than these photos show as they were taken about a week ago. The airframe is now completely finished, glassed, and sanded out. With any luck it will fly (in primer) within the next couple of weeks.



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