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Old Aug 27, 2010, 05:04 PM
I'm a pilot... 100 yrs to late
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I taught someone to fly on e-power... he has since built a "real" kit.. and it flew nice s ( E-power.). he since purchase a foamy type plane... needed to replace the nosewheel... was sold the nosehweel.. unfortunately most foamies are not made for repair as all the innards are "assembled" before glueing the fuse halves together...

He did crash the balsa kit plane... though not bad... ... was repaired and flying again before figuring out how to replace the nosewheel in his foamy... and the moral of story is.....

Buy expensive replacement part (relatively speaking).... take long time to figure out how to replace it in the stock model... end up re-engineeering stock model as you know the same problem will ocurr again... fix still in process...

Buy kit and electroncis for cost of RTF foamy... satisfaction of showing up with something no one else has... learned how to build.. how to modify as needed going forward on future kits due to experience... ... crash said kit.. and fix in two nights... back flying the next weekend...

Foamy still on bench sitting next to expensive replacment part that is not possible to replace with out extensive modifications... modifcations have begun....


I;m finishing up my Craftair Firebird for maiden this weekend.. (compnay and model no longer in procduction.. yes.. no one will have one of these)... then on to a clipped wing club... I opened the box the other day and took a big whiff of all that fesh cut balsa.... those who build know what i mean ...
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Old Aug 27, 2010, 05:08 PM
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I taught someone to fly on e-power... he has since built a "real" kit..
A 'real' kit is one of those kits where all the parts are laser cut and you must use all your craftsmanship skills to apply the CA glue between each piece?
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Old Aug 27, 2010, 05:16 PM
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A 'real' kit is one of those kits where all the parts are laser cut and you must use all your craftsmanship skills to apply the CA glue between each piece?
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Lol.. I used the term loosely...
it was laser cut yes... but it was a box of wood none the less... and he learned a lot... about incidence... running hardware... seeing how to do things better than the kist suggested..problem solving, etc...

I'm also building a much mor real kit in your terms... ... VK models Nieuport 17 1/6 scale designed in the late 70's.. and i don't think they changed much in it.. still calls for wrapping some joints with gauze !! ... hey... it's a start for my e-buddy right.... he's seeing the light of kits... ... baby steps.. man.. baby steps !!
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 07:22 AM
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Are we going to argue about what kit building is? Was the kit laser cut, did you use C.A. glue? How is it that these factors could mean; then it's not kit building!

The point is, Thermalin is helping someone get started building and for this he deserves a great big 'at aboy!!
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 04:56 PM
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We are people of entirely different attitude. Some are builders and some are destroyers.
I've certainly done more than my fair share of destroying, unfortunately...
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 06:52 PM
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hey guys. total new here, since I was about 13 and first saw an rc airplane I've always wanted one. I've raced rc cars, tried flying helicopters, and have been flying a hbz champ for a few months now. I love it, but I want something bigger now and I'd like to build it myself too. nothing would satisfy me more than building my own plane and seeing it fly. Also, money is a little tight, and I figure if I build it, it will take awhile and I can buy things a little at a time as opposed to buying an ARF. I'd like something around 46", and probably electric as I've never had any luck with nitro engines when I used to race rc cars. I'd like to stay around $100 for the kit, I know things will add up quickly and thats why I want to stay at $100. :-)

any suggestions? I was thinking about the telemaster 40. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/telemaster40.htm

thoughts? suggestions? let me have it boys, I know you all have opinions. lets hear them.

JB
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 07:00 PM
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hey guys. total new here, since I was about 13 and first saw an rc airplane I've always wanted one. I've raced rc cars, tried flying helicopters, and have been flying a hbz champ for a few months now. I love it, but I want something bigger now and I'd like to build it myself too. nothing would satisfy me more than building my own plane and seeing it fly. Also, money is a little tight, and I figure if I build it, it will take awhile and I can buy things a little at a time as opposed to buying an ARF. I'd like something around 46", and probably electric as I've never had any luck with nitro engines when I used to race rc cars. I'd like to stay around $100 for the kit, I know things will add up quickly and thats why I want to stay at $100. :-)

any suggestions? I was thinking about the telemaster 40. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/telemaster40.htm

thoughts? suggestions? let me have it boys, I know you all have opinions. lets hear them.

JB
In my opinion only, I think the Telemaster is too much stick construction for a brand new builder. Take a look at the SQiRT 400 from stevensaero.com, or the Dandy from Mountainmodels.com

Both are highly precise planes utilizing laser cut parts and no stick construction, and both planes fly like homesick doves.

Chuck
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 07:42 PM
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any suggestions? I was thinking about the telemaster 40.
I'm with Chuck on the Telemaster - depending on your modeling skills.

Many of the electric kits are open-frame stick construction to keep the finished model as light (and strong) as possible. Jumping into building with a stick, or "open frame" model may be more of a chore than a pleasure but it CAN BE DONE. Heck, back in "the day", you cut your teeth on building stick & tissue rubber-powered models. If you go with the Telemaster, keep in mind that it will be an exercise in patience as well as skill building.

One new builder in our club took on the Sig Rascal (in electric) as their first building endeavour. Came out really nice!

You may also want to take a look at Aero Craft LTD. They offer several laser-cut electric kits.:

http://www.aerocraftrc.com/

Whatever kit you choose, have fun with it.

EJWash
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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I figure if I build it, it will take awhile and I can buy things a little at a time as opposed to buying an ARF.
Thanks JBR for highlighting an important part of model building - time. I think it's disturbing that in our cultures we find it necessary to have labels like The Slow Movement to remind us what life's really about.

Related weird concepts: slow food; time poverty; stop the world I want to get off; quality time . . .
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Old Aug 28, 2010, 08:47 PM
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we've given up on thinking...so kits are only for the few that earn them.

I actually like building more then flying... maybe 60/40
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 12:04 AM
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I've always felt the hobby to be divided thusly: 50% building, 25% BSing with my buddies and 25% flying. Lately I think for myself it is 75% building and 24% BSing and 1.00 % flying. Do I need to be sorry to all of you, that's how I think?
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 05:29 AM
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Do I need to be sorry to all of you, that's how I think?
NAH! With you on that one.
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 05:54 AM
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I've always felt the hobby to be divided thusly: 50% building, 25% BSing with my buddies and 25% flying. Lately I think for myself it is 75% building and 24% BSing and 1.00 % flying. Do I need to be sorry to all of you, that's how I think?
Latterly its become 70% designing, 27% BS ing to customers, 0% building and 1% flying.
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 10:16 AM
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any suggestions? I was thinking about the telemaster 40. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/telemaster40.htm

thoughts? suggestions? let me have it boys, I know you all have opinions. lets hear them.

JB
The Telemaster has been around forever for a reason: it's a sweet-flying aircraft. I had my first R/C flights on a Telemaster back in 1977. The fellow who owned it just handed me the transmitter and said "fly it". I managed to circle the field a couple of times, and I was hooked forever. I never built one, so no comment on the construction...

-tom
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 10:30 AM
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thanks everyone for the suggestions, I'm leaning towards the squirt 400. how does it handle in the wind? I want a plane that I'll be able to fly for awhile and not have to worry about a 5 or 10 mile per wind. right now I have the little champ, and its a handful with a breeze... at times its almost stationary if the wind is hitting a good lick. lol

and i know there is quite a difference in weight and power, just want to make sure I make the right decision. prolly be awhile before I buy another one....... well, I say that. lol.
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