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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:02 PM
I think I'm inverted. Maybe.
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You're an australian, though...

...

... that matters somehow, but it does. I notice lots of australians in build threads while americans in ARF threads, or is that just my perception?
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:13 PM
The wheels touch down FIRST??
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Not sure - but I think you're on to something.

As I was saying before, most of the people I fly with do all sorts of building. There's probably a lot out there who don't, but heaps do in my circles...

BJ
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:55 PM
use the 4s luke, use the 4s...
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In the one hobby shop I've been to there are kits but slightly more arfs. He works from a four car garage and has stuff you probably can't even buy on eBay. I think the part of more build threads being australian maybe because of our (generalising) fix it attitude. I seem to see a majority of Americans see everything as disposables. I am just generalising a lot here.
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Old Nov 12, 2012, 09:58 PM
Stop scaring my donkey!
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In the one hobby shop I've been to there are kits but slightly more arfs. He works from a four car garage and has stuff you probably can't even buy on eBay. I think the part of more build threads being australian maybe because of our (generalising) fix it attitude. I seem to see a majority of Americans see everything as disposables. I am just generalising a lot here.
Not to mention imputing false stereotypes to us-God, I love to build Trittle designs.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 05:22 AM
The wheels touch down FIRST??
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Cut him a bit of slack mate - he's only a young-un.

He's only putting forward his perception of things - that things are a lot more disposable in some places.

For example, you guys in the US get some really fantastic things at bargain prices (I'd love to have a Harbor Freight down here ).

Dunno what it's like over your way, but shipping usually costs us a fair penny down here - sometimes nearly as much as what you're buying in the first place. That makes ppl like me tend to want to fix something rather than bin it straight away (unless it's a total bean-bag job/write-off like some of my latest bingles have produced )

And to fix something, you need a few building skills

Some folk love to do really complicated jigsaw puzzles, others like more simple ones. And some ppl can't stand them at all.

I guess it's a bit the same when it comes to building all things RC. Each to their own...

BJ
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 06:45 AM
Stop scaring my donkey!
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Sure, take all the license you want as you are young....

Here is a fact: in this country, people are forced to work their guts out, and until they retire don't usually have the time or inclination to "fix things up."

Good, bad, whatever, those are the facts.
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 08:14 AM
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Not to mention imputing false stereotypes to us.
I learned a long time ago that most stereotypes have a basis in fact.

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I'd love to have a Harbor Freight down here.
You can have ours.

Andy
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 08:16 AM
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I learned a long time ago that most stereotypes have a basis in fact.



You can have ours.

Andy
O.K., what is the factual basis, here?
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:07 AM
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Sorry, Jonathan, they'll send us to the basement for answering that

Fact is, building is alive and well - it's just that the materials are evolving. Those who have their heads in the sand (or shoved elsewhere) can't see that, so they assume it's dying. If they'd get out and visit other forums, or go to an event like JR Indoor, they'd see a huge number of custom models.

Andy
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Basement or not, there are lots of "self-contained" folks who hold notions that "don't fly."
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 09:34 AM
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He is right about us working hard ,i had 2 jobs at one time and i had my own limo company i was getting off the ground for myself . Even tho i had all this going on i still found a hour here or there to build my planes just to relax for a bit. There are alot of oldtime builder's who dont even own a computer or go online ,i know of 5 around here that build but no posting. As far as hobby shops stocking stuff i buy my balsa from lone star in bulk .My local hobby shop stocks most of the small parts i need , or i can order online through them so they pay the shipping. So what iam trying to say like others here ,there are alot of builders out there and i dont think we will be buying any arfs soon. joe
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 06:54 PM
The "pro" in procrastination
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Whether or not your own experience suggests that building is dying wherever you're from, I think the neat thing is that the Internet and online suppliers have made it a heck of a lot easier for us builders to find like-minded folk and the materials we need to keep on building. I'm really fortunate to have an incredibly well-stocked LHS in my town, and I make a point of buying whatever I need from them if they have it, even if it means paying more than I would online. For anyone else, the online suppliers and the help, advice and commiseration available here on RCGroups is far and away better than any local encouragement I had as a young lad interested in building flying models back in the '70s. Maybe the key is for us to make resources like RCGroups as accessible as possible to the younger generation who stumble onto us after being introduced to the hobby by buying, flying and crashing ARFs.

That would mean us not getting all insulted when the young folks make innocent (if ignorant) remarks about all manner of stuff, like balsa wood, or Titebond glue, or national stereotypes....

Steve
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 06:57 PM
Stop scaring my donkey!
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I heard the dime drop, so....
(I can smell Fortunato's rank breath....)
Well, I guess that's what I get for generalizing....
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 07:08 PM
The "pro" in procrastination
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Geez, Jon, if you're going to go through life with a thin skin, folks are bound to get under it...

Steve
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Old Nov 13, 2012, 07:14 PM
Stop scaring my donkey!
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Uh, how can you possibly know anything about my character while sitting at a computer in Ontario?

I heard the dime drop, so....

Is this a "thin skin?" Well, right or wrong, I feel I've been provoked on more than one occasion.

I'm very proud of my country and if you want to define that as "thin skinned," so be it.

Now, if you really knew me, you'd realize that very few things bother me, and I'm usually a bit of a joker. But, then, that would require one to recognize irony. (Example: "I resemble that remark!")

Hey, here's a novel idea: the "young un" could simply apologize, or even try something lukewarm like, "Gee, I didn't mean anything negative...what are you building these days?"
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