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Old Dec 03, 2011, 08:13 AM
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My name is Tom Crump, and I have a problem. I, too, have ARFs.
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Old Dec 03, 2011, 08:44 AM
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Maybe there should be an ARFers Anonymous Group here at RCGroups!....Hello, my name is Mode One, I have bought and will buy again, ARF airplanes, I need help!!
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Old Dec 03, 2011, 10:06 AM
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Maybe there should be an ARFers Anonymous Group here at RCGroups!....Hello, my name is Mode One, I have bought and will buy again, ARF airplanes, I need help!!
Your 12-Step Program is in the mail!

As stated previously, I am a long time builder of model airplanes. From plans, kits when the parts were only printed, to when they were die cut (sometimes die "crunched"!), to laser cut parts. I, too, am an ARF owner of foam and balsa models, so I guess I should send a copy of the program to myself!

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Old Dec 03, 2011, 06:14 PM
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The club I belonged to in the mid 70's had quite a few more kids in it than mine today. We have 1. My two girls have no interest. .
Hey MIke, I saw a hint in FlyRC a few minutes ago that might help you. From the February 2012 issue, page 52:

Let your girls put their favorite princess stickers on the engine cowl to serve as nose art.

There's actually a good paragraph that tells how this has really helped him involve his own princess in it.

I saw this and WOW what a great idea! Many thanks to Austin May, APO AE for sending it in!!

Andy
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Old Dec 04, 2011, 04:14 AM
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Dear Dr. Phil

Please help me, as I'm terribly ashamed and have grown very desperate!

It all started with liquor, then the inevitable slide into drugs, then progressed to ladies of slightly dodgy morality. My wife and kids eventually left me....

But it's recently gotten worse- much, much worse: I too own an ARF!

I'm worried I may end up with an incurable case of the foamies, oh what on earth am I to do?

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Old Dec 04, 2011, 11:23 AM
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That was quite a mouthful Thermalin! Really unsure if you were trying to make a statement in there; or. not?

Over the course of this thread some people have taken the topic as being negative about ARFs and seem upset about this perception! A person can certainly express their opinions one way; or, the other and many have! I am the starter of this thread and I have ARFs! Some people may find this to be a serious flaw in my personality and may think that I speak with "forked tung"!

I will have to let them think what they want, as the topic: "How do we bring model building back?" isn't a statement against ARFs! It's a question asking how to promote building model airplanes!

ARFs are doing quite well and need no promotion. If your an R/Cer and have a pulse, this should be pretty obvious to you!
I see this in many threads about arfs and scratch built planes and most times its the guys flying arfs that start throwing mud first . Let me set my record straight I DONT CARE IF YOU FLY ARFS its just not what i enjoy to do. Its your money and time so have at it. My planes might cost tripple of some arf shiney covered warbird and take me a year to scratch build ,but building is part of my hobby and i enjoy it as much as i do flying. For some reason they just dont get it, maybe because they have never built their own plane and flown it. I am also suprized at the arf flyers that cruise the builders forums ,here and other rc sites . Its like they are looking to defend why they cant ,wont or dont know how to build their own plane.I will say it again i think most builders dont care what others fly , but try not to tell us we need a arf to enjoy what we do. What does bother me is a newbee coming to these threads and falling into a guys thought that arfs are better than scratch built planes and then newbee not even trying to build a plane . Thats what gets my hair up and pushing me over the edge. Another example is ODD kidding about his arf ,GO IN PEACE PLASTIC AND FOAM BOY . lmao
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Old Dec 04, 2011, 12:10 PM
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Yes i was winded.

All you cn do is be on the lookout for those with an interest and offer assistance as needed.

Those who build will.. those who don't , won't. Anyone with an inkling toward building will find thier way to giving it a try eventually. Unfortunately many clubs are turning into a flightline of identical yaks, extras, edges, etc... except for colors of course. It's always been about flying and building. But now that you can buy whatever you want to fly...it's more about flying.

There was an atricle by chuck cunningham I read a couple days ago in my very old rcm issue 25 yrs or so. Interestingly in there he was dicussing how to get modelers into building. It's all relative I guess.
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Old Dec 05, 2011, 06:34 AM
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Thermalin are you a Jimmy Buffett fan? "Yes, I am a pirate 200, years to late".
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Old Dec 06, 2011, 03:19 AM
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Boingk. I am excited for you! I got my pilots License in 1980. Flew Cessna 150s, 152s and 172s. Bought the 152 and leased it back to the FBO that I got my flight training from, that was a sweet deal! I flew for 4 years and stopped at a little over 250 hours, as I really wanted to continue with the process, get my instrument rating, etc. However, the closest Double I instructor was around 100 miles away, so it just wasn't doable, then every time I spent the money for flying around the patch, I'd think about what I could have bought for R/C with the money and it just seem to make sense to stop! A wet 152 back then was $27.00 an hour! I got the highest score on my written of any student my instructor had ever had! I am still pretty proud of that!

Enjoy it; but don't give up on R/C! Remember, with R/C you can own any airplane you ever wanted to have!
Thanks mate, good to hear! You should definitely try flying the real deals again... its something else to be inside the plane you are flying.

I had 3 hours up on Monday and will have another few Wednesday. So far the instructor says that I'm the fastest learning student he's had... may or may not have something to do with RC airplanes and a love of first-person flight simulators. Anywho, its all progressing well. The aim is to get 150 hours up in 9 months for my commercial pilots license.

As for RC airplanes, no way I'm giving them up. I'm definitely slowing down with them as I'll be shelling out about $45,000 over the next nine months... but will in no way stop.

Oh yeah... I too have a few ARF's

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Old Dec 06, 2011, 06:35 AM
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Thanks mate, good to hear! You should definitely try flying the real deals again... its something else to be inside the plane you are flying.
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I fly whenever the opportunity arrises; but, I have no interest in becoming current again. Flying full scale can become boring after the newness wears off, similar to flying R/C. Still looking down is enjoyable and even when flying commercial I want to sit by the window. For me getting my pilots license was about the education and doing something I always wanted to do! When I could not move on, I felt I had taken it as far as I wanted.

I suppose I should bring it back to the topic, now.
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Old Dec 06, 2011, 10:45 AM
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This is a very old thread, but the fact that it's still current speaks to the passion of the hobby. I enjoy building, though, I have not built my own fixed wing Aircraft yet. I guess you could say that's why I was cruising this forum, and this thread title piqued my interest.

I hear this argument all the time at my LHS, and I always shake my head from lack of understanding the point of the argument. If the point is to say "my way is better than yours," (either way) I would argue you're missing the point. This hobby is very personal. It's not a group project hobby in most cases. How we derive satisfaction from it is personal too. Just a man, and sometimes a woman, and his or her bench. You can't make someone feel what you feel, and you can't make them want to do what you do. If I tried to make my children build their own helicopters or planes, they wouldn't fly with me. They wouldn't be in the hobby at all, and I sure would miss that.
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Old Dec 06, 2011, 11:46 AM
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This is a very old thread, but the fact that it's still current speaks to the passion of the hobby. I enjoy building, though, I have not built my own fixed wing Aircraft yet. I guess you could say that's why I was cruising this forum, and this thread title piqued my interest.

I hear this argument all the time at my LHS, and I always shake my head from lack of understanding the point of the argument. If the point is to say "my way is better than yours," (either way) I would argue you're missing the point. This hobby is very personal. It's not a group project hobby in most cases. How we derive satisfaction from it is personal too. Just a man, and sometimes a woman, and his or her bench. You can't make someone feel what you feel, and you can't make them want to do what you do. If I tried to make my children build their own helicopters or planes, they wouldn't fly with me. They wouldn't be in the hobby at all, and I sure would miss that.
Very well put Zoidman now if every one could figure that out. joe
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Old Dec 06, 2011, 08:39 PM
I'm a pilot... 100 yrs to late
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Not a total fan but the line fits.... I was born in the wrong period of aviation . My neighbor's dad grew up in Ohio... ran gas for the Jenny pilots just for a ride at the end of the day. Saw Lindberg, Hung out with "old man Taylor" as he says. A walking encyclopeida of early aviation. Fascinating to hear him reminisce.
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Old Dec 06, 2011, 08:59 PM
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Build your own

I develop a relationship with a new miniature aircraft I've started.....Throw everything at me in your resistance bag that you have!..you will fly,and fly well.What I create will be mine,done with my hands,and to the best of my ability. Blood ,sweat,and tears are necessary to build a model airplane and builders are up to the task.I don't think it's any less challenging to play a computer game than it is to fly an airplane.I lament the fact that Dads won't bond with their kids.If the kid won't engage in flying,does Dad join in the computer wars with them? I don't think it's my job to recruit kids,but I'll be the first one to put him on a buddy box if he shows up at the field! If a kid shows an interest, help him.But you can't make them want to .I.ve been flying for 62 years,but neither of my brothers has any interest at all.We KNOW the rewards of buildingfrom scratch or kits,but they need it NOW.Each step I complete is it's own reward on the way to a flying model.Many challenges,many satisfactions.I need a balsa dust fix.later.
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Epoxyearl, very well stated!
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