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Old Aug 17, 2011, 09:17 PM
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Steve,

I appreciate the response. I am using the plate as well. Should I just take my xacto to the slot and do some more digging?
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 09:38 PM
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Wondering about power. Well I found out today my 30 and 35C Turnigy batteries just are not what they used to be. I bought a couple 40C Zippy's and was I amazed at the difference. I was wondering why I could only pull 1980 something total watts on my Hacker A50-12L and now it's pulling 2321 watts. WOW that is a huge difference. No wonder it felt so much more powerful on the last few flights!

From the many posts I read I thought the bottle neck was the Ice 100 so I bought a Hacker X-80 Opto Pro 3D ESC dirt cheap brand new. I figured I would change it out to get some extra watts. So 1 question is, with the same everything but esc will the Hacker truly put out more wattage? I'll prolly just change it out for shits and grins and see but like a kid who can't wait for Christmas thought I'd see if someone could give me a spoiler. Question 2, since the size is rather large including the fan did you guys put it on the side or bottom of the motor box?
Question 3, What is the extra red wire for? It comes out right by the Red input power wire. Pre-charge circuit maybe? The instructions mention nothing of this.

See the pictures,

Thanks,

Tom
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 09:59 PM
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Steve,

I appreciate the response. I am using the plate as well. Should I just take my xacto to the slot and do some more digging?
Yes, but be careful. Sometimes just a bit of glue gets in the wrong place and blocks things up....

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Old Aug 17, 2011, 10:07 PM
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Yes, but be careful. Sometimes just a bit of glue gets in the wrong place and blocks things up....

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I saw in an earlier post in this thread about using a hot knife. I am not familiar with a hot knife. When i looked it up on tower it looked like a soldering iron could I use my cheap soldering iron as a hot knife?
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 10:09 PM
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I had the same problem and a fellow addict gave me a tip to try a heated exacto knife. Worked like a charm.
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 10:10 PM
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Tofast thanks for the advice, I will give that a shot.
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 10:15 PM
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I saw in an earlier post in this thread about using a hot knife. I am not familiar with a hot knife. When i looked it up on tower it looked like a soldering iron could I use my cheap soldering iron as a hot knife?
A thin soldering iron could be used, or even a heated Exacto knife, however, a "Hot-knife" is a really handy inexpensive tool to have..

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Old Aug 18, 2011, 08:03 AM
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A thin soldering iron could be used, or even a heated Exacto knife, however, a "Hot-knife" is a really handy inexpensive tool to have..

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Thats the nice thing about building these airframes in my dental office. I just walk in to an op, tell the assistants to look away, and drill them out. Just like a cavity! Ah the small of saw dust in the morning

When I am blocked, I sometimes put in the "other" smaller side of the horn. See if you can get it to seat anywhere along the length of the cutout. This will tell you where you need to remove material.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 11:04 AM
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so...in october you will be sendign yours to columbus
Well realistically it would get several test flights there wouldn't it? I just hope the airframe lives through 100 flights lol. I'll have to be,eh-hem,conservative.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 11:05 AM
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Well realistically it would get several test flights there wouldn't it? I just hope the airframe lives through 100 flights lol. I'll have to be,eh-hem,conservative.
hahaha. im real tempted to get some of those new savox brushless servos
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 02:08 PM
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Wondering about power. Well I found out today my 30 and 35C Turnigy batteries just are not what they used to be. I bought a couple 40C Zippy's and was I amazed at the difference. I was wondering why I could only pull 1980 something total watts on my Hacker A50-12L and now it's pulling 2321 watts. WOW that is a huge difference. No wonder it felt so much more powerful on the last few flights!

From the many posts I read I thought the bottle neck was the Ice 100 so I bought a Hacker X-80 Opto Pro 3D ESC dirt cheap brand new. I figured I would change it out to get some extra watts. So 1 question is, with the same everything but esc will the Hacker truly put out more wattage? I'll prolly just change it out for shits and grins and see but like a kid who can't wait for Christmas thought I'd see if someone could give me a spoiler. Question 2, since the size is rather large including the fan did you guys put it on the side or bottom of the motor box?
Question 3, What is the extra red wire for? It comes out right by the Red input power wire. Pre-charge circuit maybe? The instructions mention nothing of this.

See the pictures,

Thanks,

Tom
That is a built in spark arrestor circuit, which eliminates the big "snap" when you hook up your batteries. There should be instructions with the ESC on how to hook it up. If not, contact Aero-model.com and they can tell you how to set it up. It's not difficult if you are not using Deans, but somewhat so if you are. Basically, your black wires from battery and ESC, get plugged in first, then you have to have another read wire (other than your main) coming from the red battery lead, that you hook the small red wire from the esc to. This has a resistor in it, and charges up the capacitors, at a lower rate, so that when you plug the main red leads in, no "snap"...

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Old Aug 18, 2011, 04:16 PM
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Just fold up the little red wire and dont bother with it. IMO its not really needed at the 6s voltage level.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 04:23 PM
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That's what I was thinking.....

Any other ideas on my other questions?

Tom
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:21 PM
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My thoughts,

Q 1: I tested one of the Hacker x80's a while back. I dont remember noticing any big difference in wattage personally. One thing I didnt like about the Hacker controller was the throttle response seemed a bit slow for my liking. (Some may like it some may not) Castle has the upper hand there IMO. Other than that the x80 seemed to work just fine for the little testing that I did.

Q 2: I dont think it matters where its mounted.. so, I say just pick a spot with good airflow and wherever its the easiest to get it mounted.
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Old Aug 18, 2011, 05:22 PM
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That's what I was thinking.....

Any other ideas on my other questions?

Tom
It might take less than 5 mins to replace to ICE 100 with the Hacker.
Try it on the ground to see if you get more watts, and also feel if there's a difference in the throttle response.

Btw, how much did you mean dirt cheap ?

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