Question need advice

[Darron]

Originally Posted by glenbees

just to summarise before i buy, after flying rc for a number of years ie wings, ducted fans pusher jets speed ranging from 40mph to about 60mph do you reckon the turn left is the best proposition to upgrade to fast flying models within my experience.

If you feel you're ready for more speed, then you must be ready?
These models fly really well, very precise and well behaved, much better than a foamy. You're stepping up to 100mph, and then maybe to 150mph - sounds reasonable to me. If things get a bit frantic, just turn the throttle back or power off. It's not a big deal as you will probably just fly higher and further than you do with the 60mph model, so it will feel just like 60mph.

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[Ben D Wing]

Originally Posted by glenbees

ben d wing , forgot to say that the only turn left they have in stock is the covered version.

In that case you have no choice, don't forget though....He who hesitates in a purchase usually lives to regret that delay!

[glenbees]

thank you for your advice best regards glen.

[glenbees]

well as i said have been flying my gonzales this afternoon and all went well except for a few trimming problems, well not really just that i trimmed it to fly straight and level at part throttle and then did some full throttle runs but it wanted to turn left a lot and clmb. would it be better to trim for slow flight on one rate and then trim for fast runs onhigh notes. i do not know what speed i was doing hard to tell but the designer flys the proto type on a 220 watt motor at auw of about 20oz and reckons out of a dive can reach maybe 100mph. my gonzales is 24oz auw with a 350 watt motor so maybe i might have reached 100mph who knows it is hard to tell. only get about 5min flight time though .

[Ben D Wing]

If it's climbing with an increase in throttle, more down thrust could be needed. Ideally the plane shouldn't change (pitch) trim at all when the speed increases.
Turning left could mean that more right thrust is needed, or that the left wing is heavier than the the right. A lot of folks don't bother to laterally balance their wings and this really is a crucial task as rarely do two wing panels weigh exactly the same. The same goes for propellers!
Also, there could be a slight warp in one wing panel or, maybe both ailerons aren't set level with the wing T/E. Hope this gives you some ideas to sort your plane.
BTW, Have you ordered the T.L. yet?

[glenbees]

no i have not yet , to be honest i have also been looking at the fvk bandit with short bursts of power to gain height then glide with some speed,may be get longer flight times not sure , will the TL do this as good.

[Ben D Wing]

The Bandit is a whole new ball game! This an unashamed Hotliner (as opposed to a wanabee pylon model) and can handle obscene amounts of power and airborne abuse. This ideally should have a much lower KV motor (than the 16/15/2) that is able to turn a large folding prop. Or use a gearbox pehaps?
T.L. = a fast compact sport model.
Bandit = a ballistic missile! (with the right set up of course)

If it's a bad boy hooligan you want to be, then get the Bandit! I had the slope version some years ago and it's one of those models I should never, ever have sold.

P.S.
I quite often use my T.L. like a compact hotliner as it does glide extremely well, albeit a bit faster than than most gliders do.

[glenbees]

sorry to be a pain and keep asking these questions but i need to get this right as i have spent and wasted money to be honest on different models in the past and need to have some success this time around,

[Ben D Wing]

Originally Posted by glenbees

sorry to be a pain and keep asking these questions but i need to get this right...........

That's what forums are for isn't it? Keep asking, there's bound to somebody, somewhere that knows the answer to a question you might have.

[glenbees]

ben d wing just been admiring your slipso a job well done. wish i could do as well a finish nice work.

[Ben D Wing]

Hey, no peeking on other threads, but thanks for the compliment!
It's only taken me 20 years to get handy with a heat gun and iron!

[glenbees]

just been flying the gonzales this evening, a couple of question if possible. first i stated earlier the gonzales wanted to turn left at high speed but i was wrong it wants to turn right when in a high speed turn, checked the wings and cant see any warps but this is a flat sheeted wing with airfoil sanded in maybe the wings are flexing i dont know. only get about 4mins flight time so maybe this might be swinging me towards the fvk bandit. watching the videos i kinda like the way it is flown motor on and then high speed dives which i suppose would give me longer flight times i hope. also i think i must be missing something regarding spoirlerons because when i activate them up the model then dives violently what am i doing wrong.

[Ben D Wing]

Originally Posted by glenbees

.......... the fvk bandit. watching the videos i kinda like the way it is flown motor on and then high speed dives which i suppose would give me longer flight times i hope..

This is how I fly my T.L. sometimes, It's well up the task of being a small Hotliner! I get about 8 mins flying time out of a 3s 2200mAh LiPo this way.

Originally Posted by glenbees

.......... also i think i must be missing something regarding spoirlerons because when i activate them up the model then dives violently what am i doing wrong.

You're not doing anything wrong, this is how a lot of planes behave when spoilerons are deployed. Just mix in a bit of up elevator, or do it manually if you prefer. IMHO it's better to mix the elevator compensation because if the brakes need to be retracted in a hurry during the landing phase, the model will automatically be in trim for a 'go around'.

[glenbees]

yes iam i have got some down elev mixed in.

[Ben D Wing]

Originally Posted by glenbees

yes iam i have got some down elev mixed in.

Yup, there's the problem, try some 'up' elevator instead.