Question need advice

[glenbees]

will check if brake is enabled or not thank you. been in touch with model maniacs and thy say that they will be having some stock in next spring.

[Thekid3418]

I made my slipso wing 35". I did this because I flew it on 5s-2500 30C batteries with an ARC 28-47-2 at about 140 mph. It was an absolute pig at around 35oz, and required Roger Clemens to hand launch it. But once it was in the air it hauled the mail!

[glenbees]

i think the simprop turn left looks to be the best for a entry level to flying fast models but struggling to find a source who still sells them. does anybody know of a link regarding this model here in the uk

[Darron]

Originally Posted by glenbees

i think the simprop turn left looks to be the best for a entry level to flying fast models but struggling to find a source who still sells them. does anybody know of a link regarding this model here in the uk

Try this
says the price was updated in May 09.

[glenbees]

yes, found this site this afternoon and sent them a email , if i dont hear from them via email will phone them . been doing a little homework on the turn left and some say that wing is prone to breaking at its max flight envelope but looking at some videos on you tube it looks like it is well faster enough for me before it gets to its limit regarding speed.

[glenbees]

would a mega 16/15/2 be suitable for the turn left if so what kind of speed do you reckon,

[Ben D Wing]

Glenbees, if you are handy with a covering iron do yourself a favour and buy the ARC version (almost ready to cover). Not only is it a bit cheaper, but the quality of the covering on the ARTF version is a bit naff (IMHO).
With regard to the wing bend; Mine's turning an APC 5"x5" on a Mega 16/15/3, has a 2200 3s LiPo and weighs in at 695g (1lb 8.5ozs). If a 180 deg. turn is initiated at full throttle the wings do bend significantly, but at a uniform rate and to date (fingers crossed!) have not failed. The fuz is nicely made with carbon reinforcement at the wing seat and tail end and the GRP moulding seems a very strong unit. I would think that the wing is equally well assembled and reinforced too. Maybe Simprop have upgraded the manufacturing process since the early T.L.'s, or is it that other users have caused the wing to fail by other means? ie. by modifying the wing in some way so as to incur a weakness somewhere?
One more thing, the beauty of the 16/15/3 is that when the motor has stopped the pull of the magnets is so strong that the prop doesn't windmill at all. This has less of a drag effect on the plane so in essence it can be flown like a true hotliner. (Multiplex Blizzards just carry on dreaming at this point!)
My 2d worth is.......Buy one, you won't be disappointed!

[glenbees]

what speed do you reckon with the 16/15/3

[Ben D Wing]

Originally Posted by glenbees

what speed do you reckon with the 16/15/3

Good question: Speed is very difficult to gauge on a model plane, but I reckon it must be doing close to between 80-90 MPH in level flight at full throttle. Most observers rekon it's over a 100 MPH, but I doubt it. This might not sound super fast, but it changes direction in the blink of an eye and it's plenty quick enough for my ageing thumbs!
Overall handling is superb and despite the small amount of elevator movement it loops quite tightly if needed. The ailerons feel nicely coordinated and rolls can be slow or fast as required, but unless there is a good breeze the spoilerons aren't very effective in slowing it down for landing.
I've enclosed a pic, but since this has been taken I have removed the decals off the top surface and put some white SolarTrim stripes on the bottom of the wing and tail as a cleaner visual aid.
It's still my favourite leccy knock-about model and has now even downgraded my Funjet into a hangar queen!

[glenbees]

darron, the website you gave me has the turn left in stock so now it is a matter of getting the right power set up for this model (motor,batt pack) seems like a limited choice regarding size to fit the fus after reading a few comments. some people have been running a mega 16/15/2 which i already have but i want to make sure i get the right combination so that i can handle the flight envelope but also get as much speed with in its capabilities as i get comfortable with it. may look you up at the nats before i buy.

[Darron]

Great! buy it and bring it down with you.
It's much easier to see what fits once you have it.

Firstly, it's always good to re-use what you have, but is it the 16/15/2 or 16/15/3 quite a big difference...

With the 16/15/3 you are already putting in 400-500W with your 6x4 and a 3S which is a good starting point. A 5x5 will be faster and less load.

With a motor like the 16/25/2 not as hot as the one you have but we can just prop it up, but this motor can be used on 5S in F5D (your next model after the TL )

Darron

[glenbees]

just to summarise before i buy, after flying rc for a number of years ie wings, ducted fans pusher jets speed ranging from 40mph to about 60mph do you reckon the turn left is the best proposition to upgrade to fast flying models within my experience.

[Ben D Wing]

Originally Posted by glenbees

...............do you reckon the turn left is the best proposition to upgrade to fast flying models within my experience.

Without seeing how you piloted those models it's difficult to judge through cyber space, but I would say give it a go!
I have flown a 350W Funjet previously and this was by far the fastest model I had encountered untill I bought the T.L. By comparison the T.L. is a far smoother flying plane as it's not so sensitive in roll or pitch because it has a longer moment arm and a high aspect ratio wing. One final point is that apart from the launch there is no need to fly full throttle all of the time so if it gets a bit too hectic just turn the fan off and glide about!

[glenbees]

been experimenting with a foam delta wing superfly and put a mega 16/15/2 in a minifan 480 producing about 420 watts flys great speed about 60,70 mph and find it quite easy to fly hence a need for more speed but want to gradually build up my experience regarding fast models. just dont want to jump to fast. hoping to fly my gonzales tomorrow with a 16/15/3 so might get a better idea flying a faster model.

[glenbees]

ben d wing , forgot to say that the only turn left they have in stock is the covered version.