Thunder Power Pro Power45C 3S2250 mAh

everydayflyer · Aug 14, 2009, 06:30 PM

FYI 2,000 mAh at 60A is a 2 min. discharge.

First 3 charges at 3C , 4&6 at 4C ,rated for 6C charges.
Charge #5 on Cell Pro 10 at 5A for IR check 2.4 / 2.3 / 2.3

Added a 30-60A graph in minutes instead of Ah

8-15-09 Added an in flight graph. I have never flown this aircraft with such a small LiPoly before. I was curious how it would handle the loads.

8-15-09 4:15PM Burst cycle comparison graph added.

9-20-09 Added ET Micro Power V3 Burst cycles graph and CBA Burst cycles 17-42.

11-7-09 10-60 amps. latest version of PP 45 3S 2250

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=53

Charles

SpeedVision · Aug 14, 2009, 10:01 PM

Charles, your timing couldn't be better! I just bought some of these at IRCHA... Real pilots (I'm not) seem to really like the performance of these cells. Castle Creations is showing their new 160 amp ESC (Trex 700 conversion), powering their new motors capable of 7400 (or so) watts. They are using the 45c TP's. Amazing!

eckace1 · Aug 14, 2009, 10:48 PM

Charles some of us like to fly wings at wot most of the time.
That being said at 35to40amps that lipo would be great for many more cycles than we are used to.
Thanks for all you do.
Robert

mrforsyth · Aug 14, 2009, 10:49 PM

Amazing. Particularly noteworthy is the relatively low temp rise (50F) after a nearly 30C dump.

What IR's you measure on these? And how does IR stack up with VX's?

It's about time for me to order some new packs...

Mark

like2fly! · Aug 15, 2009, 04:29 AM

Thanks again Charles

Alex

everydayflyer · Aug 15, 2009, 05:00 AM

Quote:

What IR's you measure on these? And how does IR stack up with VX's?

From post # 1

Quote:

Charge #5 on Cell Pro 10 at 5A for IR check 2.4 / 2.3 / 2.3

Hyp VX G3 3S2200 IRs here

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=44

Charles

like2fly! · Aug 15, 2009, 05:09 AM

Good Morning Charles,
could you please put discharges of the 3s TP ProPower 30C 2250 and 45C on the same graph?

Alex

everydayflyer · Aug 15, 2009, 05:21 AM

And with a wave of my magic wand.

Charles

like2fly! · Aug 15, 2009, 07:09 AM

Thanks Charles

Alex

mrforsyth · Aug 15, 2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everydayflyer

From post # 1

Don't know how in the world I missed that. I must have been hypnotized by the graphs...

Good stuff. Next looming question will be longevity and if they improve over time in the same manner as the VX's. Although admittedly, improving on 2.3mΩ would be quite a feat.

Mark

like2fly! · Aug 15, 2009, 11:59 AM

Hi Charles,

was just reading this one on the 30C pro powers regarding A123 comparison.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=17

could you please plot the 3s1p 2250 45C (~192g) v's 4s A123 (~304g) on the same graph?

Alex

everydayflyer · Aug 15, 2009, 12:21 PM

There is a 10-50A discharge graph here of a single A123 cell

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...10&postcount=1
Pick a load,discharged capacity point and multiply by 4 to get a comparison.

I really have no high discharge rate graphs of A123 packs.

Charles

like2fly! · Aug 15, 2009, 12:42 PM

that'll do, cheers !

Alex

everydayflyer · Aug 15, 2009, 01:26 PM

Here is a 5S A123 versus a 4S TP PP40

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...45&postcount=1

like2fly! · Aug 15, 2009, 04:17 PM

Thanks for the last one also Charles (of course 40C version, but all good).

I still like my A123's a lot, but as soon as the 45C Pro Power come in ill get some.
looks like safety apart the latest lipos have pipped (whooped?) the A123's

roll on A123b?

Alex

Aug 14, 2009, 06:30 PM	#1
everydayflyer Southern Pride Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haralson County GA. USA Posts: 24,927	Thunder Power Pro Power45C 3S2250 mAh FYI 2,000 mAh at 60A is a 2 min. discharge. First 3 charges at 3C , 4&6 at 4C ,rated for 6C charges. Charge #5 on Cell Pro 10 at 5A for IR check 2.4 / 2.3 / 2.3 Added a 30-60A graph in minutes instead of Ah 8-15-09 Added an in flight graph. I have never flown this aircraft with such a small LiPoly before. I was curious how it would handle the loads. 8-15-09 4:15PM Burst cycle comparison graph added. 9-20-09 Added ET Micro Power V3 Burst cycles graph and CBA Burst cycles 17-42. 11-7-09 10-60 amps. latest version of PP 45 3S 2250 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=53 Charles Attached Thumbnails TP PP45C 10-60A FYI 60A is a 2 minute discharge 8-14-09 6:30PM 74.5 KB · Views: 420 82.8 KB · Views: 177 TP PP 45c 3S 2250 in GP electro Stik. First time flown with such a small LiPoly. Just curious how it would do. Charles 8-15-09 94.5 KB · Views: 158 Thunder Power Pro Power 30C ,45c and Hyp. VX G 35C Burst cycles 40/15 A 8-15-09 4:15 PM 78.3 KB · Views: 176 Burst cycles 40 amps. for 20 sec. then 15 amps for 20 sec. Dsc# 24 Charged at 13.5 amps. in 12:03 9-20-09 122.5 KB · Views: 49 Burst cycles 17-42 9-20-09 89.6 KB · Views: 79 Last edited by everydayflyer; Nov 09, 2009 at 10:23 PM.

Aug 15, 2009, 05:21 AM	#8
everydayflyer Southern Pride Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haralson County GA. USA Posts: 24,927	And with a wave of my magic wand. Charles Attached Thumbnails Thunder Power Pro power 30 and 45 3S2250 92.5 KB · Views: 277

Aug 15, 2009, 12:21 PM	#12
everydayflyer Southern Pride Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haralson County GA. USA Posts: 24,927	There is a 10-50A discharge graph here of a single A123 cell http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...10&postcount=1 Pick a load,discharged capacity point and multiply by 4 to get a comparison. I really have no high discharge rate graphs of A123 packs. Charles Last edited by everydayflyer; Aug 15, 2009 at 01:00 PM.

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Aug 14, 2009, 10:01 PM	#2
SpeedVision Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 248	Charles, your timing couldn't be better! I just bought some of these at IRCHA... Real pilots (I'm not) seem to really like the performance of these cells. Castle Creations is showing their new 160 amp ESC (Trex 700 conversion), powering their new motors capable of 7400 (or so) watts. They are using the 45c TP's. Amazing!

Aug 14, 2009, 10:48 PM	#3
eckace1 The other Bob Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Des Moines IA Posts: 2,286	Charles some of us like to fly wings at wot most of the time. That being said at 35to40amps that lipo would be great for many more cycles than we are used to. Thanks for all you do. Robert

Aug 14, 2009, 10:49 PM	#4
mrforsyth Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 1,973	Amazing. Particularly noteworthy is the relatively low temp rise (50F) after a nearly 30C dump. What IR's you measure on these? And how does IR stack up with VX's? It's about time for me to order some new packs... Mark

Aug 15, 2009, 04:29 AM	#5
like2fly! Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London,England Posts: 1,053	Thanks again Charles Alex

Aug 15, 2009, 05:09 AM	#7
like2fly! Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London,England Posts: 1,053	Good Morning Charles, could you please put discharges of the 3s TP ProPower 30C 2250 and 45C on the same graph? Alex

Aug 15, 2009, 07:09 AM	#9
like2fly! Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London,England Posts: 1,053	Thanks Charles Alex

Aug 15, 2009, 11:59 AM	#11
like2fly! Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London,England Posts: 1,053	Hi Charles, was just reading this one on the 30C pro powers regarding A123 comparison. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=17 could you please plot the 3s1p 2250 45C (~192g) v's 4s A123 (~304g) on the same graph? Alex

Aug 15, 2009, 12:42 PM	#13
like2fly! Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London,England Posts: 1,053	that'll do, cheers ! Alex

Aug 15, 2009, 01:26 PM	#14
everydayflyer Southern Pride Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haralson County GA. USA Posts: 24,927	Here is a 5S A123 versus a 4S TP PP40 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...45&postcount=1

Aug 15, 2009, 04:17 PM	#15
like2fly! Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London,England Posts: 1,053	Thanks for the last one also Charles (of course 40C version, but all good). I still like my A123's a lot, but as soon as the 45C Pro Power come in ill get some. looks like safety apart the latest lipos have pipped (whooped?) the A123's roll on A123b? Alex