Castle Introduces PHOENIX ICE

Kate O'Neil · Aug 07, 2009, 02:26 PM

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...oenix_ice.html

RC Man · Aug 07, 2009, 03:13 PM

Castle has definitely blown away the competation with the ICE series.

Looks like Tower Hobbies is selling them at a 15% discount – better get one before they increase the price.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...E&FVSEARCH=ICE

I have an ICE 50 on order that will go in my T500.

Andy W · Aug 08, 2009, 07:27 AM

Towers prices for Castle products have always been below MSRP, I believe..
..a

Tim B · Aug 08, 2009, 02:51 PM

Any plans on smaller ( 25, 35 ) sized ICE controllers?

Tim

Andy W · Aug 09, 2009, 09:24 AM

Do people really run that low current on high cell count?

I've got one, but I don't see much discussion about the HV30, for example..
..a

RC Man · Aug 09, 2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy W

Do people really run that low current on high cell count?

I've got one, but I don't see much discussion about the HV30, for example..
..a

Yes, the trend is to put 6s LiPo in small helicopters. If you double the voltage you cut the current in half for the same power. If you were running a 50 amp ESC with a 3s LiPo you would only need a 25A ESC with a 6s LiPo to make the same power.

lestingoy · Aug 09, 2009, 06:23 PM

You guys do know that we have the HV-30, right? That is an incredible controller when you think about it. It's tiny and it will handle nearly 1,500 watts. Blows me away that it isn't more popular.

Lee

RC Man · Aug 09, 2009, 07:00 PM

I think that because of all those overrated Asian ESC’s that everyone thinks that they have to buy an ESC that has two or three times the amps that they need. For Asian ESC’s that’s true but for Castle Creation and European ESC’s you can use them at rated value.

I think that there is a lot of confusion about peak and continuous rating. Some think that if they have current spikes of 70 amps than they need a 100 amp ESC even though the average current for a flight might be only 40 amps. That’s the case with helicopters. In that case an ICE 50 would be more than adequate because it has a burst rating of 90 amps.
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...oenix_ice.html

nsg · Aug 09, 2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lestingoy

... Blows me away that it isn't more popular.

Every try advertising it or something?

Seriously, this is the first time I hear about it...

Wrt ICE 50 - I used it on a 500 size heli, no problems. I wasn't doing heavy (or any) 3D, though.

lestingoy · Aug 09, 2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsg

Every try advertising it or something?

Seriously, this is the first time I hear about it...

Wrt ICE 50 - I used it on a 500 size heli, no problems. I wasn't doing heavy (or any) 3D, though.

Maybe I'm not putting it where you are looking. Where are you looking?

It's been advertised everywhere in print media plus shown at every RC event that we attend -- and we attend more than just about anybody out there.

Here are two examples.

Lee

nsg · Aug 09, 2009, 11:00 PM

Print is so last century

I haven't seen them at e-shops I buy from.. or perhaps didn't notice. Looking at the pdfs - HV30 is barely noticeable.

Andy W · Aug 10, 2009, 07:03 AM

I bought mine as soon as I saw it advertised on these forums, which was right after it was released..

Haven't used it yet, but I have one - for the same reason as Lee posted - 1500W thru a PHX-25 - sized package!

My intent is to use it in my Topaz, run it on 12s at 30A.
..a

kelvin · Aug 10, 2009, 07:28 AM

I'm looking at the 100amp model for a 8s EDF application

RC Man · Aug 10, 2009, 07:39 AM

I sure hope that Tower Hobbies gets them shipped out this week.

Greybird · Aug 10, 2009, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC Man

I think that because of all those overrated Asian ESC’s that everyone thinks that they have to buy an ESC that has two or three times the amps that they need. For Asian ESC’s that’s true but for Castle Creation and European ESC’s you can use them at rated value.

I think that there is a lot of confusion about peak and continuous rating. Some think that if they have current spikes of 70 amps than they need a 100 amp ESC even though the average current for a flight might be only 40 amps. That’s the case with helicopters. In that case an ICE 50 would be more than adequate because it has a burst rating of 90 amps.
http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...oenix_ice.html

Good post.

Aug 07, 2009, 02:26 PM	#1
Kate O'Neil Castle Creations Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 46	Castle Introduces PHOENIX ICE http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...oenix_ice.html

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nsg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,667	Print is so last century I haven't seen them at e-shops I buy from.. or perhaps didn't notice. Looking at the pdfs - HV30 is barely noticeable. Last edited by nsg; Aug 09, 2009 at 11:19 PM.

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Aug 07, 2009, 03:13 PM	#2
RC Man A man with too many helicopter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,688	Castle has definitely blown away the competation with the ICE series. Looks like Tower Hobbies is selling them at a 15% discount – better get one before they increase the price. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...E&FVSEARCH=ICE I have an ICE 50 on order that will go in my T500.

Aug 08, 2009, 07:27 AM	#3
Andy W That sickening crunch.. Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 39,779	Towers prices for Castle products have always been below MSRP, I believe.. ..a

Aug 08, 2009, 02:51 PM	#4
Tim B Pro Bro ozzyman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cheyenne, WY Posts: 366	Any plans on smaller ( 25, 35 ) sized ICE controllers? Tim

Aug 09, 2009, 09:24 AM	#5
Andy W That sickening crunch.. Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 39,779	Do people really run that low current on high cell count? I've got one, but I don't see much discussion about the HV30, for example.. ..a

Aug 09, 2009, 06:23 PM	#7
lestingoy Lee Estingoy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Overland Park, Kansas, United States Posts: 663	You guys do know that we have the HV-30, right? That is an incredible controller when you think about it. It's tiny and it will handle nearly 1,500 watts. Blows me away that it isn't more popular. Lee

Aug 09, 2009, 07:00 PM	#8
RC Man A man with too many helicopter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,688	I think that because of all those overrated Asian ESC’s that everyone thinks that they have to buy an ESC that has two or three times the amps that they need. For Asian ESC’s that’s true but for Castle Creation and European ESC’s you can use them at rated value. I think that there is a lot of confusion about peak and continuous rating. Some think that if they have current spikes of 70 amps than they need a 100 amp ESC even though the average current for a flight might be only 40 amps. That’s the case with helicopters. In that case an ICE 50 would be more than adequate because it has a burst rating of 90 amps. http://www.castlespecialprojects.com...oenix_ice.html

Aug 10, 2009, 07:03 AM	#12
Andy W That sickening crunch.. Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 39,779	I bought mine as soon as I saw it advertised on these forums, which was right after it was released.. Haven't used it yet, but I have one - for the same reason as Lee posted - 1500W thru a PHX-25 - sized package! My intent is to use it in my Topaz, run it on 12s at 30A. ..a

Aug 10, 2009, 07:28 AM	#13
kelvin Involuntary Beta Tester Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 7,997	I'm looking at the 100amp model for a 8s EDF application

Aug 10, 2009, 07:39 AM	#14
RC Man A man with too many helicopter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,688	I sure hope that Tower Hobbies gets them shipped out this week.