Blade MSR Confirmed. PICs Below + video and video review - Page 5

forrest225 · Jul 28, 2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bassplayinDude

Have the local shops been notified about this? I'd like to call my LHS and pre-order today. If the first shipment is on its way, the mSR could arrive just in time for my birthday!

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Just put my pre-order in with the local shop. This year I've picked up the mini-SC, Vapor, SU-26m and soon the mSR. Also ordered a DX5e w/o Rx so my 4 year old can start buddy-boxing on my Vapor and mCX.

With all the Parkzone, Hobbyzone and E-Flite stuff I own, can I get a HH T-shirt? If I'm going to be a walking HH advertisement I might as well get some threads too LOL.

Also, if I buddy box a DX5e to my DX6i with the 6i as the master, will all the expo and dual rate settings in the 6i be used or am I limited to whatever I can set on the DX5e?

I'm not really sure, I think the trims have to be set exactly the same(or atleast, i think you used to have to do that), so you may not be able to use expo, although I'm sure you could set up the dual rates the same.

But then again, every thing may transfer over, I don't really know.

bassplayinDude · Jul 28, 2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by forrest225

I'm not really sure, I think the trims have to be set exactly the same, so you may not be able to use expo, although I'm sure you could set up the dual rates the same.

But then again, every thing may transfer over, I don't really know.

The only thing I've heard so far that has to be the same is servo reversing settings. I can't find an answer to my question in the DX5e manual either.

forrest225 · Jul 28, 2009, 11:59 AM

You could try calling horizon or emailing them, i'm sure they will be willing to help you.

ForceFedDSM · Jul 28, 2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bassplayinDude

The only thing I've heard so far that has to be the same is servo reversing settings. I can't find an answer to my question in the DX5e manual either.

Be careful buddy boxing those 2 radios together. IIRC, some people were having trouble with it and noticed the dx5e getting really hot. I think the reason was that the cable for the dx6i and dx5e have 2 wires reversed. I am not positive on this but you might want to research it further in the radio section before connecting them. On my dx7 buddy'd with another dx7 the master sets the trims/settings for both radios.

Dave,
Are the mSR's going right to shops when they get to port or will they be held back until the September release date/schedule? Seems that if they are on the way now they might be available earlier than expected.

Jared

bassplayinDude · Jul 28, 2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by forrest225

You could try calling horizon or emailing them, i'm sure they will be willing to help you.

Probably the best angle of attack. Thanks.

Dave Eichstedt · Jul 28, 2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bassplayinDude

The only thing I've heard so far that has to be the same is servo reversing settings. I can't find an answer to my question in the DX5e manual either.

I'm not sure on this. I'll ask around here at work.

specriv · Jul 28, 2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFedDSM

Dave,
Are the mSR's going right to shops when they get to port or will they be held back until the September release date/schedule? Seems that if they are on the way now they might be available earlier than expected.

Jared

I do some importing from Asia to California and it always seems to take at least a month to get things by water. US customs can be extremely slow--and I'd rather they be slow and careful than lazy.

Dave Eichstedt · Jul 28, 2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFedDSM

Dave,
Are the mSR's going right to shops when they get to port or will they be held back until the September release date/schedule? Seems that if they are on the way now they might be available earlier than expected.

Jared

Note I said the FIRST containers. We still need more in order to ship the launch quantity. Everything's on schedule at this point, with early September being the most likely availability. If the stars align you might see it in late August.

David

bassplayinDude · Jul 28, 2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Eichstedt

I'm not sure on this. I'll ask around here at work.

That would be really great if you could. My son is chomping at the bit to fly my stuff instead of his Aero Ace bipe.

a320jockey · Jul 28, 2009, 03:20 PM

Now you can start thinking about some scale fuselages for this micro heli, better if they come from E-Flite. Definitely a lot nicer to have a single rotor Jet Ranger in this size. I guess it may be arriving around November to Ecuadorian soil.

Cheers,

Carlos A. Cordova
QUITO - ECUADOR

Broudy038 · Jul 28, 2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whilrybird

dual brushless 4#3b $139. I think full brushless is expected now days. Tired of getting milked for replacement motors, when the technology exist use it.

I haven't had this problem yet but I also haven't piloted enough to know. From what I can see on this bad boy though is that its small enough that a brushless isn't gonna make the difference. Take care of the Heli and with this >1oz size, the motor should hold up just fine

Broudy038 · Jul 28, 2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by whilrybird

Don't forget that a new 4#3 variant will have the 45degree flybar. New dual brushless and if your into modding you can take the variable pitch tail from a 4g6 and build a bullet proof single brushless 4#3.

I don't think those coreless pager motors are going to last that long especially on tail duty. Also remember bigger battery means more weight and which will reduce flight times and handling performance. Basically a diminishing return on performance. I think if they sold these for $60 to $80 they would be viable. But when you can get a full brushless 4#3 and seperate servos for less, I just don't see the justification for the high price.

I could be wrong but it seems like Walkera fans are obbsessed with Brushless because Walkera screwed you all in the first place with their cheap brushed motors that kept dieing fast. No one who is an HH fan dislikes brushed in their eflites near as bad as walkera guys.

Maybe its just the manufacturer and not the motor...? If taken care of and not abused, I am willing to bet these mSR's will be just fine, PLUS reliable manufacturer is worth paying a little more for in my opinion

malcr001 · Jul 28, 2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Broudy038

I could be wrong but it seems like Walkera fans are obbsessed with Brushless because Walkera screwed you all in the first place with their cheap brushed motors that kept dieing fast. No one who is an HH fan dislikes brushed in their eflites near as bad as walkera guys.

Maybe its just the manufacturer and not the motor...? If taken care of and not abused, I am willing to bet these mSR's will be just fine, PLUS reliable manufacturer is worth paying a little more for in my opinion

In a way youre right about the fact that walkera brushed motors has fueled many 4-3B fliers to go brushles but I also agree with whilybird about the fact that if the technology is there, why not use it?

Brushless to me means no more replacement motors (as long as they contain bearings instead of bushings that is). I also like to think that my heli would have a longer life span before I get fed up of it. Walkera brushed motors meant that you had to replace a part (the motor) of the heli the more you flew it regardless whether if you have had no crashes on it. Usually when you give up on a heli its because you need to replace a part and cant be bothered with it anymore so it ends up on the shelf to gather dust never to resurrected again.

MikeyToo · Jul 28, 2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Broudy038

I could be wrong but it seems like Walkera fans are obbsessed with Brushless because Walkera screwed you all in the first place with their cheap brushed motors that kept dieing fast. No one who is an HH fan dislikes brushed in their eflites near as bad as walkera guys.

Maybe its just the manufacturer and not the motor...? If taken care of and not abused, I am willing to bet these mSR's will be just fine, PLUS reliable manufacturer is worth paying a little more for in my opinion

I've got a CX (not CX2 but plain CX) that I learned to fly on. It's got easily 500 flights on it and still has the original E-flite motors on it. They are getting a bit on the weak side, but it still flies well enough to use as a trainer.

OTOH, I have a 4#3B that went through a motor in maybe 50 flights. After that, I put a BL kit on it.

If you ask around, you'll find this a common sentiment.

Balr14 · Jul 28, 2009, 09:38 PM

Walkera brushed motors use copper strips for the brushes, not actual brushes. These strips lose tension as they are subjected to heat. When they lose tension, they lose contact with the armature and that's that. This has been one of my biggest gripes with Walkera for a long time. It's not like they made a mistake once and are correcting it. They use this same cheap design on most of their small motors.

There are good brushed motors. Even Helimax uses good carbon brushes in their crappy Axe CX coax. These are the same motors Walkera uses in the 4#3B, 4-3Q, 5G6-1, and UFO #5; but with copper strips. Of course the Axe CX motors last much, much longer.

Jul 28, 2009, 11:59 AM	#63
forrest225 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 378	You could try calling horizon or emailing them, i'm sure they will be willing to help you.

Jul 28, 2009, 03:20 PM	#70
a320jockey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Quito, Ecuador Posts: 384	Now you can start thinking about some scale fuselages for this micro heli, better if they come from E-Flite. Definitely a lot nicer to have a single rotor Jet Ranger in this size. I guess it may be arriving around November to Ecuadorian soil. Cheers, Carlos A. Cordova QUITO - ECUADOR

Jul 28, 2009, 09:38 PM	#75
Balr14 I meant to do that! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germantown, WI. Posts: 4,994	Walkera brushed motors use copper strips for the brushes, not actual brushes. These strips lose tension as they are subjected to heat. When they lose tension, they lose contact with the armature and that's that. This has been one of my biggest gripes with Walkera for a long time. It's not like they made a mistake once and are correcting it. They use this same cheap design on most of their small motors. There are good brushed motors. Even Helimax uses good carbon brushes in their crappy Axe CX coax. These are the same motors Walkera uses in the 4#3B, 4-3Q, 5G6-1, and UFO #5; but with copper strips. Of course the Axe CX motors last much, much longer.