Blade MSR Confirmed. PICs Below + video and video review - Page 2

baygenco · Jul 23, 2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sketchaholic

Around 2:40... I'm sold! (edit: I should say 2:40 of the first video)

i am sold at 4:55

will get the bnf.

sleb · Jul 23, 2009, 09:02 PM

One BnF for me also. The mSR looks great!!!.
Steve

Balr14 · Jul 23, 2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whilrybird

dual brushless 4#3b $139. I think full brushless is expected now days. Tired of getting milked for replacement motors, when the technology exist use it.

Amen to that! It's not that expensive for the manufacturer to do, either.

mediclavina · Jul 23, 2009, 10:58 PM

There's plenty of cheaper submicro helis but they require mods and upgrades to make them fly or keep them fly. The MSR doesn't seem like those cheapo RTF helis. For a very stable ultra-micro heli out-of-the-box, I don't see $180 expensive. Ever heard of the Micron FP?

blackmoon · Jul 24, 2009, 08:20 AM

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MikeyToo · Jul 24, 2009, 09:45 AM

I am DROOLING here. If it runs as well as the mCX it should be a sweet little bird. I think my 4#3 BL is going into retirement when this comes out.

USNAviationjay · Jul 24, 2009, 09:59 AM

Ill take 2.. these are going to be awesome for office and indoor club meeting and fun fly birds..
We had MCX Races at Rons Heliproz Fun Fly this year.. I see next year the MSR races and that will be even better!

MikeyToo · Jul 24, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hmmm... just read the manual. It looks like they took the idea for the swashplate control ball extensions that I saw on the mCX thread and used it on the mSR. I wonder if the mSR swash would go on an mCX.

helidude22 · Jul 24, 2009, 09:26 PM

This is very interesting. It does not look like they upgraded the electronics, but I bet you could put the head on. I wonder how they did the tail motor. This would need another channel to run unless they just hooked it up to the gyro. It is also interesting that they made a new 1 cell battery that is cheaper and more c's and more mah. Now there is a 110 8c, 120 14c, and a 150 12c. They also made a more "advanced swash setting with longer arms to further control your flight. After this I think there is definitely going to be a collective pitch micro heli. It is too bad that walkera already beat them too it, but I still think the head design will be better and more time/effort will go into the production. It is interesting they give you two batteries. I wonder what the flight time is? Do you think they included more batteries because of bad flight time per pack? It is scheduled to come out late august, but I bet you it will be december by time they get it through.

Kamov · Jul 24, 2009, 09:39 PM

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I wonder what the flight time is? Do you think they included more batteries because of bad flight time per pack? It is scheduled to come out late august, but I bet you it will be december by time they get it through.

according to the mSR manual flight time on the stock 120mah 14c is around 5~7 minutes. So on a 110mah 8c pack its going to be less and overworking the battery.

im guessing on the 150mah its 8~10 mins

i'll be happy of another manuf. like Walkera and others step up with their versions
competition is always good and benefit consumers.

jasonjetski · Jul 24, 2009, 10:57 PM

Can't wait to see how this one goes.

whilrybird · Jul 24, 2009, 11:40 PM

Don't forget that a new 4#3 variant will have the 45degree flybar. New dual brushless and if your into modding you can take the variable pitch tail from a 4g6 and build a bullet proof single brushless 4#3.

I don't think those coreless pager motors are going to last that long especially on tail duty. Also remember bigger battery means more weight and which will reduce flight times and handling performance. Basically a diminishing return on performance. I think if they sold these for $60 to $80 they would be viable. But when you can get a full brushless 4#3 and seperate servos for less, I just don't see the justification for the high price.

dkfuji · Jul 24, 2009, 11:44 PM

I like the fact it comes with no bl upgrades yet. Heck, modding is half the fun anyway!!! I gotta have one just to see if one of my bl mains will work.

whilrybird · Jul 25, 2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dkfuji

I like the fact it comes with no bl upgrades yet. Heck, modding is half the fun anyway!!! I gotta have one just to see if one of my bl mains will work.

Not happening. Adding a converter, brushless esc and a brushless motor on these will be nearly impossible. Too heavy. These are a lot lighter and smaller than a 4#3. It needs to be something done from the start on the mainboard. I like your enthusiasm, but I think you don't have the full grasp of what will be involved at this size. I'm still waiting to see EQmod put a brushless in his 4 channel picco z.

dkfuji · Jul 25, 2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by whilrybird

Not happening. Adding a converter, brushless esc and a brushless motor on these will be nearly impossible. Too heavy. These are a lot lighter and smaller than a 4#3. It needs to be something done from the start on the mainboard. I like your enthusiasm, but I think you don't have the full grasp of what will be involved at this size. I'm still waiting to see EQmod put a brushless in his 4 channel picco z.

Well you just never know. There are a lot of extremely talented and creative guys out here working on what was once thought nearly impossible (i.e., shaft driven VP tail with HH on sub-micro CP helis). I love a good challenge anyway. LOL

Jul 23, 2009, 09:02 PM	#17
sleb Proud member of the Tri-C's Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio, United States Posts: 861	One BnF for me also. The mSR looks great!!!. Steve

Jul 23, 2009, 10:58 PM	#19
mediclavina Quark, EP200V2se, E325se, mSR Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 388	There's plenty of cheaper submicro helis but they require mods and upgrades to make them fly or keep them fly. The MSR doesn't seem like those cheapo RTF helis. For a very stable ultra-micro heli out-of-the-box, I don't see $180 expensive. Ever heard of the Micron FP?

Jul 24, 2009, 08:20 AM	#20
blackmoon flying beam Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: through the Looking Glass Posts: 282	subscribed

Jul 24, 2009, 09:45 AM	#21
MikeyToo n00b pilot Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brandenburg, KY, USA Posts: 328	I am DROOLING here. If it runs as well as the mCX it should be a sweet little bird. I think my 4#3 BL is going into retirement when this comes out.

Jul 24, 2009, 09:59 AM	#22
USNAviationjay US Navy AT2 1987-1995 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 1,318	Ill take 2.. these are going to be awesome for office and indoor club meeting and fun fly birds.. We had MCX Races at Rons Heliproz Fun Fly this year.. I see next year the MSR races and that will be even better!

Jul 24, 2009, 10:03 AM	#23
MikeyToo n00b pilot Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brandenburg, KY, USA Posts: 328	Hmmm... just read the manual. It looks like they took the idea for the swashplate control ball extensions that I saw on the mCX thread and used it on the mSR. I wonder if the mSR swash would go on an mCX.

Jul 24, 2009, 09:26 PM	#24
helidude22 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 258	This is very interesting. It does not look like they upgraded the electronics, but I bet you could put the head on. I wonder how they did the tail motor. This would need another channel to run unless they just hooked it up to the gyro. It is also interesting that they made a new 1 cell battery that is cheaper and more c's and more mah. Now there is a 110 8c, 120 14c, and a 150 12c. They also made a more "advanced swash setting with longer arms to further control your flight. After this I think there is definitely going to be a collective pitch micro heli. It is too bad that walkera already beat them too it, but I still think the head design will be better and more time/effort will go into the production. It is interesting they give you two batteries. I wonder what the flight time is? Do you think they included more batteries because of bad flight time per pack? It is scheduled to come out late august, but I bet you it will be december by time they get it through.

Jul 24, 2009, 10:57 PM	#26
jasonjetski Micro-CNCist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,058	Can't wait to see how this one goes.

Jul 24, 2009, 11:40 PM	#27
whilrybird Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,122	Don't forget that a new 4#3 variant will have the 45degree flybar. New dual brushless and if your into modding you can take the variable pitch tail from a 4g6 and build a bullet proof single brushless 4#3. I don't think those coreless pager motors are going to last that long especially on tail duty. Also remember bigger battery means more weight and which will reduce flight times and handling performance. Basically a diminishing return on performance. I think if they sold these for $60 to $80 they would be viable. But when you can get a full brushless 4#3 and seperate servos for less, I just don't see the justification for the high price.

Jul 24, 2009, 11:44 PM	#28
dkfuji Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mission Viejo, California Posts: 1,197	I like the fact it comes with no bl upgrades yet. Heck, modding is half the fun anyway!!! I gotta have one just to see if one of my bl mains will work.