Sniper II construction and discussion thread - Page 4

pwkpete · Jun 27, 2009, 04:08 PM

Woops, put MS in the wrong column... They are available at MSCompositusa as well as a lot of other shops. From what I understand, they are not planning on making the new Champion blades in this size...

Helimax definitely look interesting, wonder how stiff they are? Towerhobbies doesn't seem to stock them though...

Wow the MAH's definitely are oinkers

We are just starting to get stocked on parts, elektrorc.com and gothelirc.com will be stocking spares. 6s 3800 will be on the heavy size but usable. I'm taking my 6s 3300's from the Protos to use on here...

chichisport · Jun 27, 2009, 04:28 PM

Hehe , I just bought a 4s4000 hyperion 25C .

Oinkers???? heavy?

pwkpete · Jun 27, 2009, 04:30 PM

4s of 4000, should be excellent.

Oinkers -> pigs

chichisport · Jun 27, 2009, 04:30 PM

If head is similar to the sniper I go to find some big lite paddles , I use K&S in the front hole .Quick but not twitchy.

chichisport · Jun 27, 2009, 04:31 PM

Not that much ,I think mines are 90 gr... OK oink..oink

pwkpete · Jun 27, 2009, 05:04 PM

My 600mm BBTs were wetween 130 and 135!

MAH lists them at 110-115g!

You got a good set

EmmDee · Jun 27, 2009, 06:37 PM

Found a "GiNorMous" package on my doorstep this afternoon. Wonder what's inside?

pwkpete · Jun 27, 2009, 06:57 PM

Imagine the size of the GI-Normous box that had ALL the kits in it...

mahbouni · Jun 27, 2009, 06:58 PM

My flybarless Sniper landed on UK soil last night and reached the local ParcelForce depot this morning. The status is now Out for Delivery so I should have it Monday morning.

misskimo · Jun 27, 2009, 09:05 PM

huh? heavy with 6s 3850s, man everyone is going the wrong way with there concepts of what the heli should weigh. 6s 3850s on a logo 500 was a mild setup only, Too short of a flight time if a hot setup. and now you saying its too heavy for a 470 size heli. I wonder is SWE makes a 470 blade. they are very close to how maniac blades run

Kai_Shiden · Jun 28, 2009, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misskimo

huh? heavy with 6s 3850s, man everyone is going the wrong way with there concepts of what the heli should weigh. 6s 3850s on a logo 500 was a mild setup only, Too short of a flight time if a hot setup. and now you saying its too heavy for a 470 size heli. I wonder is SWE makes a 470 blade. they are very close to how maniac blades run

A Logo 500 is really more of a shrunken Logo 600 (they share the same frames), as such, it is a bit heavy for a 500mm bladed heli (same with the Logo400, it's based off a Logo10 frame, but running shorter blades).

Snipers are the exact opposite, they are similar in weight to the 425mm bladed heli class, but run longer blades. You can make power a few different ways, the Sniper makes it with low disc loading, where the Trex500 and others in the 425-435mm blade class (Lepton, Atom, HDX, etc) make the "pop" power with cranked headspeed, which has parasitic blade drag drawbacks in power consumption requiring larger capacity packs to compensate.

On my Sniper V1, I ran (and still run) 4s 3700mah, and can cruise for up to 18min, or kick into high idleup for 8 min of tearing around (used to be able to do more, but my packs are 2.5 years old now and getting very tired). My Sniper V1 came out to 1565gr AUW on those packs (over 300gr lighter than my friend's Lepton with the same packs, in fact, my Sniper is/was about the same RTF weight as his airframe without battery pack).

The new Sniper V2 is rated to higher headspeed than my V1 (I was at the limit at about 2300rpm in high idle), so it all depends what you want to get out of it, I'm sure the Sniper V2 running 2600rpm (or more) on your packs would have plenty of punch (and still have near rediculous duration, even in 3D), even with the higher AUW.

6s2600 packs would be about the perfect midrange packs for most flyers runing moderate headspeeds, only about an ounce more than my 4s3700, but higher voltage so more efficency and power. For those who choose to crank up to near the max rating of 2800rpm, I think stepping up to >3000mah 6s packs would be prudent (if only to help tame the extra twitch of that headspeed by increasing the weight of the heli

).

-Kai

chichisport · Jun 28, 2009, 05:37 AM

Misskimo , think of a fully upgraded ECO8 .......

chichisport · Jun 28, 2009, 06:03 AM

http://www.derblattschmied.de/index.html His Ultra is the same as Mavverick G5 , 475 at least in 2 variants Jazz and xtro (65gr!!!!!)
http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/jazz.html Glass blades.

http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/x-tro.html Xtro carbon 65gr

http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/economy.html B quality Xtro .

http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/rotorblatt_1x1.html

chichisport · Jun 28, 2009, 06:06 AM

Nothing is hidden:
http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/wir_ueber_uns.html

pwkpete · Jun 28, 2009, 10:12 AM

I've been snooping all around that site... I was concerned that they list the blades at max 2200 RPM... (I emailed them yesterday)

Jun 27, 2009, 04:08 PM	#46
pwkpete ElektroRC.com - LAHeli,YGE,RJX Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA Posts: 3,862	Woops, put MS in the wrong column... They are available at MSCompositusa as well as a lot of other shops. From what I understand, they are not planning on making the new Champion blades in this size... Helimax definitely look interesting, wonder how stiff they are? Towerhobbies doesn't seem to stock them though... Wow the MAH's definitely are oinkers We are just starting to get stocked on parts, elektrorc.com and gothelirc.com will be stocking spares. 6s 3800 will be on the heavy size but usable. I'm taking my 6s 3300's from the Protos to use on here... Last edited by pwkpete; Jun 27, 2009 at 04:13 PM.

Jun 28, 2009, 10:12 AM	#60
pwkpete ElektroRC.com - LAHeli,YGE,RJX Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA Posts: 3,862	I've been snooping all around that site... I was concerned that they list the blades at max 2200 RPM... (I emailed them yesterday) Last edited by pwkpete; Jun 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM.

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Jun 27, 2009, 04:28 PM	#47
chichisport Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tenerife,Canary Islands Posts: 1,542	Hehe , I just bought a 4s4000 hyperion 25C . Oinkers???? heavy?

Jun 27, 2009, 04:30 PM	#48
pwkpete ElektroRC.com - LAHeli,YGE,RJX Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA Posts: 3,862	4s of 4000, should be excellent. Oinkers -> pigs

Jun 27, 2009, 04:31 PM	#50
chichisport Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tenerife,Canary Islands Posts: 1,542	Not that much ,I think mines are 90 gr... OK oink..oink

Jun 27, 2009, 05:04 PM	#51
pwkpete ElektroRC.com - LAHeli,YGE,RJX Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA Posts: 3,862	My 600mm BBTs were wetween 130 and 135! MAH lists them at 110-115g! You got a good set

Jun 27, 2009, 06:37 PM	#52
EmmDee Sniper II, Maxir, Beam E4 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 70	Found a "GiNorMous" package on my doorstep this afternoon. Wonder what's inside?

Jun 27, 2009, 06:57 PM	#53
pwkpete ElektroRC.com - LAHeli,YGE,RJX Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA Posts: 3,862	Imagine the size of the GI-Normous box that had ALL the kits in it...

Jun 27, 2009, 06:58 PM	#54
mahbouni Heli Hooligan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,447	My flybarless Sniper landed on UK soil last night and reached the local ParcelForce depot this morning. The status is now Out for Delivery so I should have it Monday morning.

Jun 27, 2009, 09:05 PM	#55
misskimo TeamTP,Minicopter,Spartan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Mississippi 31 years , Now Kotzebue , Alaska 12 Posts: 7,414	huh? heavy with 6s 3850s, man everyone is going the wrong way with there concepts of what the heli should weigh. 6s 3850s on a logo 500 was a mild setup only, Too short of a flight time if a hot setup. and now you saying its too heavy for a 470 size heli. I wonder is SWE makes a 470 blade. they are very close to how maniac blades run

Jun 28, 2009, 05:37 AM	#57
chichisport Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tenerife,Canary Islands Posts: 1,542	Misskimo , think of a fully upgraded ECO8 .......

Jun 28, 2009, 06:03 AM	#58
chichisport Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tenerife,Canary Islands Posts: 1,542	http://www.derblattschmied.de/index.html His Ultra is the same as Mavverick G5 , 475 at least in 2 variants Jazz and xtro (65gr!!!!!) http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/jazz.html Glass blades. http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/x-tro.html Xtro carbon 65gr http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/economy.html B quality Xtro . http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/rotorblatt_1x1.html

Jun 28, 2009, 06:06 AM	#59
chichisport Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tenerife,Canary Islands Posts: 1,542	Nothing is hidden: http://www.derblattschmied.de/html/wir_ueber_uns.html