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Old Sep 09, 2001, 10:45 AM
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Repost: Keil Kraft Outlaw Plan required.

Hi,
Someone replied that they had a plan for an Outlaw, But I didn't manage to take note of an email address before the server crash.

I've tried various commercial sources both in the UK and US, but to no avail.

Please repost, I think someone in Surrey had one available.

Steve Bennington
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Old Sep 09, 2001, 11:19 AM
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The KK Outlaw was my first R/C model. In the hands of an "expert" it lasted only a few seconds. I then taught myself to fly with gliders and powered gliders.

I may be able to find my old plans, but really don't see the point. It is a very mediocre model.

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Old Sep 10, 2001, 01:02 AM
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Steve, Welcome to the Ezone!
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 06:39 AM
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Wasn't it Bill Glover ?
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 06:57 AM
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Wasn't it Bill Glover ?
Thanks Chris, well remembered, it was Bill Glover!!

I can drop him a mail now..

Kind Regards,

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Old Sep 10, 2001, 07:15 AM
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It is a very mediocre model.

Neil.

I disagree (I built three of them in the mid 70s). As rudder/elevator sports models went they were great. My last one was the best, it ended up with an Enya 19 on it and went like the clappers I only had 2 ch gear so reduced the wing incidence a little on that one. The first had the stock trike u/c, the other two were taildraggers with the dural u/c banded on (so could be flown without if necessary). The first one flew fine on pretty modest power ... a DC Sabre 1.5cc diesel. The second and third had an OS Max 10, when this eventually died the only other engine I had was the Enya 19 so in it went!

Incidentally, I'm still using the dural u/c from Outlaw #3 as the main gear on a Veron Mini Concord!
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 09:15 AM
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Steve,

Try http://www.benbucklevintage.com

They have a plan and a kit of the outlaw.

Steve
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 09:25 AM
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Steve,

Try http://www.benbucklevintage.com

They have a plan and a kit of the outlaw.

Steve
Hi Steve,

The Outlaw i'm after is a different model to the Ben Buckle one.

Thanks for the reply,

Steve

Picture follows...
<img src="http://www.modelflying.co.uk/features/feature13/images/mainpic.jpg" width=199 height=162 alt="KK Outlaw" border="0">
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 10:46 AM
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I flew my 19 powered Outlaw off snow with skis, good fun.

Also had a bomb rack under the fus. carrying 3 lightweight bombs (with streamers). They were held on by a rubber band, released by a swift jab of full left rudder.

At one point my dad lent me a tiny camera, I had it installed in the Outlaw and ready to fly when he found out it was a collector's item and very valuable ... so I was never allowed to try it!
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 11:00 AM
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I flew my 19 powered Outlaw off snow with skis, good fun.

Also had a bomb rack under the fus. carrying 3 lightweight bombs (with streamers). They were held on by a rubber band, released by a swift jab of full left rudder.

At one point my dad lent me a tiny camera, I had it installed in the Outlaw and ready to fly when he found out it was a collector's item and very valuable ... so I was never allowed to try it!
Thanks Bill, sounds like it's well powered on a .19!!

My main interest in the model would be for electric conversion, but if that proves too tricky, I have discovered an old but little used Veco .19 in the garage.....

I'm a little hooked on electrics at the moment, after building the Tucano from the RCM&E plan. Flies V fast on a Permax 400 6v with 8*800AR cells, but is rock steady.
I'm expecting to replace the motor every 80 or so flights, if the model lives that long

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Steve
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Old Sep 10, 2001, 11:40 AM
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> I disagree (I built three of them in the mid 70s). As rudder/elevator sports models went they were great.

I am glad they worked so well for you. I guess my view is tainted by my Outlaw's short life! It had an OS10 and single channel rubber escapement R/C. The "expert" modeller I entrusted it to for the first flight simply chucked it at full power, and it did a big power-on stall and came straight down!

Anyway to me it still looks like a rather characterless high wing sports model, and there must be 1000's of similar designs around.

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Old Sep 10, 2001, 11:56 AM
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> I disagree (I built three of them in the mid 70s). As rudder/elevator sports models went they were great.

I am glad they worked so well for you. I guess my view is tainted by my Outlaw's short life! It had an OS10 and single channel rubber escapement R/C. The "expert" modeller I entrusted it to for the first flight simply chucked it at full power, and it did a big power-on stall and came straight down!

Anyway to me it still looks like a rather characterless high wing sports model, and there must be 1000's of similar designs around.

Neil.
Hi Neil,

There's no accounting for taste, but it just appeals to me!!

Incidently, whereabouts do you guys fly locally, as I work in Kenilworth, and wouldn't mind a lunchtime flying site!

Regards,

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> There's no accounting for taste, but it just appeals to me!!

Diversity is the spice of life!

> Incidently, whereabouts do you guys fly locally, as I work in Kenilworth, and wouldn't mind a lunchtime flying site!

I fly bigger models at the Coventry club flying site near Wolstone, off the A45 South of Coventry. I fly my smaller jobs in Newbold Commoyn park in Leamington.

Before F&M I also used a farmer's field near Leak Wooton, which is much nearer to Kenilworth. I haven't got the farmer's permission, but I think there is a right of way across the field, and anyway I haven't been turfed off it yet.

If you would like to arrange a luchtime session send me an email. I work from home in Leamington so can sometimes take time off for good behaviour!

Neil.
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Old Sep 11, 2001, 05:09 AM
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If you would like to arrange a luchtime session send me an email. I work from home in Leamington so can sometimes take time off for good behaviour!
Sounds like a plan!

I'll let you know when I'm going to be Kenilworth way, as at the moment i'm either working from Home or on customer site.
Leek Wootton is not far away at all

I'll drop you a mail when i'm going to be in the office.

oh the joys of working in IT consultancy!

Regards,

Steve
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Old Oct 12, 2003, 05:14 AM
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Did anyone ever find the Outlaw plan? I've ben looking all over the place for one, to recreate my first RC model from 1972!

Dave S in Finland
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