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Old Feb 02, 2012, 08:25 AM
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Hi all,

There's a rare Italian Atomatic on eBay France:

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=170775441790

You'll have to look quickly. The French usually do a dirty private deal on this kind of engine. I wouldn't mind betting the auction doesn't run to the end.

Brian
Pretty rare. You think it is an original ?
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Old Feb 02, 2012, 09:29 AM
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Hi Reggie,

It's difficult to be absolutely certain with mediocre photos but Yes, I do think it's an original.
Unfortunately, the "specific" mounting ring is missing.
The seller is a lady (I think) who sells general used old goods, picked up from estates, loft clearances and stuff like that. She never knows what the engines are but, last year, she sold a pretty good Micron 10/magneto and other interesting stuff (I didn't see any Wurlitzers...). As I said, these auctions almost never run to the end, so anyone interested had better start submitting the appropriate questions PDQ!

Brian
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 02:44 PM
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TR diesel vs new

A few posts back, TR and racing diesels were mentioned.Here is the old ETA Mk1 2.5 cc vs the new Parra 2.5 diesel. Power wise, not a fair comparison in to-day's modern engine. Build wise- both are very nice.
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 02:57 PM
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Racing engines

TR engines are made to run well, fast, and sip fuel.
If you don't need to sip fuel, and are able to supply lots of it, then just imagine what you can do. A .15 (2.5 cc) vs a .60 ( 10cc) turning 24,000 rpm and making 3.5 HP.
What's the most fun pound/pound?
You guessed it....the little stuff!
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Old Feb 04, 2012, 11:01 PM
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Yeah, I used to watch the Rossi engines in r/c hydros: run like the devil on huge quantities of fuel, until the plug blew, or it shed vital parts (saw one blow a rod!).

My ETAs NEVER failed, ran many laps on a teaspoon of fuel, and pulled high-pitch props as hard as most 35s. Sounds like bragging, but it is just my experience. Same with my old ED 2.46: I got it used, 1953 mfg date, and it just seemed to run a bit better every flight.

I sold off my last glow engine in '68, haven't needed one since...
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Old Feb 05, 2012, 12:22 AM
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Evergreen little diesel

My late spec. "blue head" MVVS 2.5D TBR on the bench.

First run ever.

Easy starts on a rich under compressed setting. Felt "bouncy" after first three minute run.

No longer state of the art, but a delightful sports engine offering good power - and promise of long life - if shown some care.
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Old Feb 05, 2012, 02:22 AM
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Thanks Fiery.. I have been gone for a week or so but I picked up a strap wrench when I was in San Diego.. works great.
Al
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Old Feb 05, 2012, 05:50 PM
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I just "won" a WAF-1 on an auction, along with the wreck of the C/L model it's been sitting in since maybe late 50's or so....photos speak for themselves,,,
As I do have a handful of WAF-bits, including a cyl.jacket, I may be able to give this engine its dignity back eventually...if the internals are good, that is....we'll see...

(More info on WAF HERE )

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Old Feb 05, 2012, 08:18 PM
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Lucky lucky GH.
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Old Feb 06, 2012, 01:40 AM
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Thanks Gossie..!....It's a great feel, finding this sort of things....however this kind of auction "catches" always involves a fair bit of gambling, as the seller mostly doesn't know anything about the object...the best scenario would be if no one has touched it since it got petrified by castor oil 50 years ago....but who knows...?
Report to come, when the bits have arrived...
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Old Feb 06, 2012, 02:15 PM
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KINGCAT 1.49cc

Unfortunately missing the fancy mufler!
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Old Feb 06, 2012, 05:50 PM
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From eBay Germany - (excuse the edited Babelfish translation)
"Here is perhaps a genuine rare piece for collectors of old model Diesels! I assume it is a prototype of Willi Otto, who manufactured some one-off productions as well known in the 40's. The Wilo 2.5 fig. 279 on the page 187 in the book by Matthäus Weidner " The German engines for Modelle" has a similar housing, only that the carburetor goes downward. The cooling jacket and housing are nearly identical, only with my engine the federal bush to the punched union nut on the housing is fastened, the housing has an external thread. The engine has a steel piston rod, M6 at toggles and crankshaft, evenly all somewhat more stably than later Ausführunge, the reason for my assumption. The shown engine has approx. 2.5 cm ³ capacity, a high compression, small customs traces and the left mounting flange is filed smooth at its face for some reason."
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Old Feb 07, 2012, 05:17 PM
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A clutch of rare KO diesels

KO Diesels on display
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Old Feb 07, 2012, 08:56 PM
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Elegant and beautiful, but expensive !
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fantastic-NI...item35b9602bd3
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Old Feb 11, 2012, 01:13 PM
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It’s getting to be a crazy world out there!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...OIBUAA:CA:3160

ETA 15 Mk1 2.48cc Diesel Model Airplane Engine NIB
Item condition: New
Ended: 11 Feb, 201217:54:19 GMT
Winning bid: £686.00

This certainly makes the newer replicas, or more modern diesels a real bargain.

The MVVS 2.5 cc is really a great engine.
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