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Old May 07, 2012, 11:09 AM
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Well, the leads need to be coming off the same side as the base of the motor, so the way I drew it, the top is where the bell will be fit down on top, and the prop shaft will stick out. Therefore, no, you can't start at the "top."
I got ya Finishing up one of Lee's Storm Chaser's now - bout ready to fly
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:15 AM
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Wait, maybe I didn't understand your question. If you meant wind #1 vs wind #9, the way I did it was from the center, out, for the first 8 winds, then let the 9th wind lay over the first 8 on its way back to the center.

...not sure if that's what you were asking, or if that makes sense. ?
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:25 AM
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Tom,

Maybe this diagram will help a bit... I hope. Each arrow is where you'll actually do your 9 or 10 winds, or however many you're doing, before moving on to the next arrow. You can see how the first pair are wound towards each other, and the second pair away from each other. (But you have to keep looking at it with the same side as the top, remember!)

When you're done with this set of 4 teeth, just rotate and start with the next open tooth. That way you end up with 6 loose ends. Once each two adjacent wires are twisted into pairs, those become the 3 leads you solder your bullet connectors onto, just like in the video.
Awesome pic Captain! Thanks for posting it.
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:33 AM
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Here's a second version, that may help clear up what you were asking about, Tom
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:46 AM
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The little red CF 2812 motors. If you go to CTH's Assassin page, and click on the "Recommended Parts" tab, it has links to a couple places you can buy them
Thanks. Were does everyone buy the holographic tape at ?
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:55 AM
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The next weakest link is the bearings.
If you are running one of the rewinds you probably want to keep the bearings lubricated.
I bought a little bottle of bearing oil at the LHS that has a needle on the end of it.
It makes an easy job out of keeping the little bearings oiled.
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:58 AM
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Thanks. Were does everyone buy the holographic tape at ?
paperstreetplastics ebay store

The local craft store also had some nice holo paper on sale a few weeks ago
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Old May 07, 2012, 11:58 AM
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The next weakest link is the bearings.
If you are running one of the rewinds you probably want to keep the bearings lubricated.
I bought a little bottle of bearing oil at the LHS that has a needle on the end of it.
It makes an easy job out of keeping the little bearings oiled.
thanks, good tip. Like we were talking about the other night, I probably wouldn't spend the time and money to actually replace bearings on these cheap 2812's, but a bottle of lube to extend the life may be worth it.
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Old May 07, 2012, 01:02 PM
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The next weakest link is the bearings.
If you are running one of the rewinds you probably want to keep the bearings lubricated.
I bought a little bottle of bearing oil at the LHS that has a needle on the end of it.
It makes an easy job out of keeping the little bearings oiled.
Scorpion Oil Kit Motor Bearing Lubrication Kit

tis what I use
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Thanks. Were does everyone buy the holographic tape at ?
The holographic tape and all other components used can be found on CTH's Assassin page - click on the "Recommended Parts" tab.

Since those questions have been asked a lot of time, Lee put them all in one place. The good thing is that he includes many links/vendors for the same part.
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Old May 07, 2012, 01:51 PM
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Scorpion Oil Kit Motor Bearing Lubrication Kit

tis what I use
Looks to be a good deal-
Probably about what I paid at my LHS
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Old May 07, 2012, 02:01 PM
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Link to the shopping list page-
http://crashtesthobby.com/more/shopping-list

Lee- can you add http://www.tapebrothers.com/ to the list for places to look for tape.
They have the colored packing tape and also carry the generic extreme style tape at some pretty good prices.

http://www.tapebrothers.com/Bi-Direc...fil-835bd2.htm
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Old May 07, 2012, 06:00 PM
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thanks, good tip. Like we were talking about the other night, I probably wouldn't spend the time and money to actually replace bearings on these cheap 2812's, but a bottle of lube to extend the life may be worth it.
elCaptain, you are right about the cost of the bearings verses the motor cost new. But keep in mind that when we rewind the motor and get all that great power it is going to put stress on the bearings and sometimes we all overtighten the screws for the mount and kill the bearing. If it's been rewound it has an added value and the cost of the bearings, cheap, keep the hot rod motor going for little cost.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...--3mm-x/Detail
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...--3mm-x/Detail
There are the two different sized bearings and if you've rewound a motor you know they are easy to get at.
The replacement bearings make the motor a true value due to the servieability of the thing.
Just another way to look at it.
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Old May 07, 2012, 06:03 PM
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Eh, true, I guess. If I'm already ordering something from HeadsUpRC or another place that has them that cheap, and I have an extra few bucks, I might order a couple, but I probably wouldn't go out of my way, is what I'm saying.
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Old May 07, 2012, 06:17 PM
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Yeah- honestly- the little red motors are disposable at their price.
But once you rewound one and brought it back to life, unless the bell is bent or the stator is shot, you can replace the shaft, the bearings and the windings very inexpensively and have a motor that really is better than new. It's not something for nothing- but it's definitely worth doing, at least for me.

Chico-
Each motor has two bearings

I think the one on top of the stator is actually this size
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...--3mm-x/Detail

and the one in the base of the motor has changed from time to time
I think the newer ones use the 8mm and the older ones use the 7mm

Is it worth putting 10 dollar sealed bearings in there NO
Is it worth swapping one out for 99 cents or a buck fiddy YES
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