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Old May 15, 2009, 11:41 AM
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Help!
need plans from net for shure start 049 with or without rc ring or baby bee 049

hey if any one knows of any good free links to gwg or gif or pdf files of any 1/2 a rc planes that will fly on 2 or 3 channel throt. included or not needed is fine just starting with rc 1/2

i have a 36 inch 306 sq inch wing balsa less than 3. 5 oz covered
i can build fuse tail rudder and 2 or 3 channel with servoes and fuel/ batt for rad id get about 18 or 19 oz total would it fly i mean can a shure start with pro piston and sleeve has been reset running with glowboy 24/17/59 at 24 rpm concivably do this no syth all castor content greasy but works like magic
wing is from great planes tutor ep but i have brace for real flight with fuel (sorry electric dont cut it here with me)

i also have about 45 diffrent brand new and 1970s 049 cox engines i want to build a hanger full of planes for

i preffer rc now but am familiar with control line well enough to build scale built ups for these and .020 as well so throw me ideas please
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Old May 15, 2009, 11:49 AM
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what im working with

3 channel radio gear with 6 9g ind drive rec 34 bat 84g
2 channel radio gear ultra light with 2 6g servoes rec 10 g batt 62 g
all the cox engines in the bee 049 and shurestart family with almost every spare possible cox and otherwise like dd pro reeds or vintage glow engine rc ring
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Old May 15, 2009, 01:30 PM
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Dave Blum Plans.

Dave Blum has a Cessna 185 for electric.
25" W/S. can be enlarged to fit your needs.
check this site you are on now(RCG) do a search for dblum.
He has other plans too.

Daniel
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Old May 15, 2009, 01:49 PM
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Check the 1/2A sources threads here on this forum for links to plans for .049's. Lots of plans to choose from!!

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Old May 17, 2009, 06:09 AM
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Dave Blum has a Cessna 185 for electric.
25" W/S. can be enlarged to fit your needs.
check this site you are on now(RCG) do a search for dblum.
He has other plans too.

Daniel

NICE FOR A CESS BUT I DONT LIKE THE WINGS AT ALL MOSTLY THE HIHG LEVEL I FIND IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY REAL FAST FLYING WAS LOOKING AT A MODIFIED DESIGN MUSTAGN ON SOME FRENCH SITE BUT I CANT READ PLANS SINCE THEY ARE FRENCH
ITS FOR A P63 COBRA WHICH I HAD NEVER SEEN DONE INN BALSA BEFORE QUITE NICE

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF SOLID 2 PANEL WINGS LIKE ONES IN THE GRACE PROJECT MODEL PLANE
I HAVE HEARD THOSE FOILS ADD AMAZING LIFT AND THEY LOOK GOOD EVEN FOR SMALL SCALE CESSNA STYLE
ANYONE EVER TRY THE BABY BEE ON IT?
ANYONE TRY THROT ON IT?

HOW ABOUT THE DAS WUNDAR THAT IS SLEEK AND SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT DO ITS JOB WELL ALSO DUE TO LARGE AMOUNT OF LIFT AREA FOR SUCH SMALL MODEL

ANY 049 SPEED PLANES ON NET ANYONE KNOW OF

ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO GET OLD ALUMINUM SPEED PANS FOR CONTROL LINE SPEED SLUSH IS FINE TO JUST NO DIE CAST
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Old May 17, 2009, 09:58 AM
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HOW ABOUT THE DAS WUNDAR THAT IS SLEEK AND SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT DO ITS JOB WELL ALSO DUE TO LARGE AMOUNT OF LIFT AREA FOR SUCH SMALL MODEL

ANY 049 SPEED PLANES ON NET ANYONE KNOW OF
If you want a quick plane that's a quick and easy, build a GLH, but drop the wheels and tail skid --- you won't need them.

Dave Fritzke's site

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Old May 17, 2009, 07:00 PM
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If you want a quick plane that quick and easy, build a GLH, but drop the wheels and tail skid --- you won't need them.

Dave Fritzke's site

andrew
THAT IS A NICE PLANE TO SET UP WITH JATO BOOST FROM JETEX ENGINE DURING FLIGHT ID GUESS
BUT EITHER WAY THE GLH IS GOING TO BE BUILT ALLREADY HAVING PLANS RE FORMATED FOR SINGLE FULLSIZE BLUE PRINT
IN FACT A COUPLE PLANES THERE WERE VERY NICE DAVE MUST BE A PRETTY GOOD BUILDER

ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET JETEX FUEL IN USA?
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Old May 17, 2009, 09:42 PM
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Just so you know I think your caps lock is on.
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Old May 17, 2009, 10:03 PM
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SORRY wasnt yelling just too much nitro fumes today
and remember kids always use proper ventilation when running 24/17/59 in your house

i think its gonna be the grace postal project plane and the glh if i have extra time ill do the das wunder also but have limited knowledge of twin rudder control setups
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Old May 18, 2009, 08:32 AM
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good start for shure start??

i have finished building a pair of general purpose wings for use with diffrent
fuses and layouts i will be crashing for an endurance plane wing needs tips and cover but only weighs abut 39 grams or near 1.3 oz

any ideas thoughts will be appreciated greatly thank you very much again for advice and help so far
no builders in my area everything is rtf crud

weight 38 g
span 40 as shown 42.5 complete
wing area approx 306 inches thanks steve for formula
covered desired weight for nitro flight 3.25 oz

is this possible?
what is easist to use 4 cover i was hoping econocote would work as i have 3 rolls i got for 1 dollar each in some horrid colors


anyone have any idea what the model name of this control line is???
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Old May 18, 2009, 09:55 AM
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Grace with sure start

The GRACE is a pretty easy build and flys quite well. Mine comes out at 15.6 oz. with gear on. 13.8 without.
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Old May 18, 2009, 11:34 AM
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The GRACE is a pretty easy build and flys quite well. Mine comes out at 15.6 oz. with gear on. 13.8 without.

pretty litte plane easy to see why they call it grace
stanndard shure start or any type of mod like rc ring or pro reeds ????????????????
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Old May 18, 2009, 11:38 AM
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pretty litte plane easy to see why they call it grace
stanndard shure start or any type of mod like rc ring or pro reeds ????????????????
She has a die cast crankcase but otherwise it is a standard sure start.
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Old May 18, 2009, 04:50 PM
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She has a die cast crankcase but otherwise it is a standard sure start.
dked41
ive noticed the diecast leak more than i preffer till they have like 3 oz fuel run through them with a few days between each but that coupled with the fact that they are actualy die cast metal seems to let them run pretty cool

how does it handle?
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Old May 19, 2009, 10:37 AM
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The plane is pretty tame with with minimal throws, but is quite agile with more throw. I have noticed that even with reduced throws, it may be a little quick for a trainer,but it is still managable. I like it well enough that I have built a second one without landing gear, also sure start powered. I have also gotten a red anodized machined case for the one pictured above, just for looks. Go ahead and build one, I think you will like it.

dked41

Just a note; the plans do provide a servo tray that has a throttle servo mount if you want to add one.
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