Avitron, next generation RC ornithopter - Page 2

DESIGN ENGNR · Sep 10, 2009, 03:02 PM

Hey Nathan,
Will you be offering a pre-order option for the Avitron? Depending on price I will be first in line.

Dave

Tweener · Sep 10, 2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagsalazar

I'm sort of new to ornithopters so maybe the controllers are very different but why not make it compatible with normal spread spectrum tx like bind-n-fly vapors, etc?

Because you'd have to sell Horizon on it and the price would go up. (Waaay up.) The traditional RC aircraft manufacturer/distributors in the US have always seemed to thumb their noses at ornithopters, although there are those that can be outfitted with hobby grade electronics aftermarket or sold without and are made to accept them. I fly my Cybirds PI and PII with my DX7 and the AR6100 RX.

NChronister · Sep 11, 2009, 03:50 PM

Sorry Dave. I do not offer any pre-ordering options, due to the experience I had with Hobbytechnik (Sean Kinkade), of ordering birds and never having them delivered. I know for a fact that de Ruymbeke is a much more reliable company. They have been supplying the Tim Bird for 40 years! But still, RC ornithopters are a complicated affair, and the release date cannot be certain. Unexpected delays can happen, and I don't want to leave customers waiting.

DESIGN ENGNR · Sep 11, 2009, 05:04 PM

I understand. Just be sure to save one for me once they are in stock.

Dave

the_only_kris_20 · Sep 11, 2009, 11:03 PM

nathan is there any rough estimate on the pricing i understand this could change but what is a ball park estimate. thanks

NChronister · Sep 12, 2009, 01:32 PM

I think it's supposed to be around $70. I know that's a bit more than some of the other toy RC ornithopters, but it really is a much better model. It has a 2.4 GHz radio and more importantaly, it flies much better than any micro model I've flown.

newflyer100 · Sep 13, 2009, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NChronister

The Avitron is much smaller, and so it would be better for flying in your back yard. The Fenice/Eledove flies pretty fast all the time, but the Avitron can be adjusted for either fast or slow flying. You would adjust it for the slower speed for flying in smaller areas, and the higher speed for larger areas and more wind.

Sounds like the perfect ornithopter!

Can't wait to see it available on your site...be sure to post on here also as soon as you have it...sounds like we are all very eager to get it!

(P.S. Thanks for the quick ship on the cybird body last week...saw your note...totally fine....great service Nathan...thanks!)

G-LO · Sep 13, 2009, 09:45 AM

Hi Nathan , when bird is about ready or close to selling; Can you post some detailed pics? I have saved footage of it from youtube. This is a beautiful little bird close up!

OrniGuy2 · Sep 13, 2009, 05:59 PM

I wonder how well the glide factor is...on the youtube vids it seemed to spiral down everytime it stopped flapping.

newflyer100 · Sep 13, 2009, 07:22 PM

X-TIM Avitron (4 min 3 sec)

Not a great shot of it, but from 2:10 through 2:21 on the video it seems to be gliding straight...

OrniGuy2 · Sep 15, 2009, 02:09 AM

Thanks for the post...maybe the spiral was intent and or maybe just sometimes the glide is good...guess we'll see when we are able to purchase it

NChronister · Sep 15, 2009, 03:05 PM

The glide depends on where the wings stop. Unlike some larger RC ornithopters, the force of lift on the wings does not seem to push the wings up into a V. Therefore the wings will stop at various angles when the motor shuts off. Sometimes the Avitron will glide quite well, and other times it will not glide well. I would say the likelihood of getting a good glide on any given attempt is about the same as with a ratchet-type glide device. I felt it was just like flying one of the larger, more expensive RC ornithopters.

demisemiquaver · Oct 01, 2009, 09:35 PM

Any idea when these will be available? I'd order one in a heartbeat.

Kinkade · Oct 02, 2009, 12:33 AM

"Ordering birds from HobbyTechnik ( Sean Kinkade) and *NEVER* having them delivered"...Nathan? Late yes, in fact very late, but NEVER? You said "never".
You clearly have them in stock now so obviously I delivered.

swami · Oct 02, 2009, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkade

"I owe several people Pterodactyls from '06."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkade

"Ordering birds from HobbyTechnik ( Sean Kinkade) and *NEVER* having them delivered"...Nathan? Late yes, in fact very late, but NEVER? You sad "never".
You clearly have them in stock now so who delivered them? The Easter Bunny? And you posted this when? 9-11?."

At least the easter bunny delivers once a year.

Dirk.

Oct 02, 2009, 12:33 AM	#29
Kinkade Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 189	"Ordering birds from HobbyTechnik ( Sean Kinkade) and NEVER having them delivered"...Nathan? Late yes, in fact very late, but NEVER? You said "never". You clearly have them in stock now so obviously I delivered. Last edited by Kinkade; Oct 02, 2009 at 05:44 PM.

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Sep 10, 2009, 03:02 PM	#16
DESIGN ENGNR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LaVergne, TN Posts: 174	Hey Nathan, Will you be offering a pre-order option for the Avitron? Depending on price I will be first in line. Dave

Sep 11, 2009, 03:50 PM	#18
NChronister Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 281	Sorry Dave. I do not offer any pre-ordering options, due to the experience I had with Hobbytechnik (Sean Kinkade), of ordering birds and never having them delivered. I know for a fact that de Ruymbeke is a much more reliable company. They have been supplying the Tim Bird for 40 years! But still, RC ornithopters are a complicated affair, and the release date cannot be certain. Unexpected delays can happen, and I don't want to leave customers waiting.

Sep 11, 2009, 05:04 PM	#19
DESIGN ENGNR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LaVergne, TN Posts: 174	I understand. Just be sure to save one for me once they are in stock. Dave

Sep 11, 2009, 11:03 PM	#20
the_only_kris_20 Jets are my drug of choice! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wellsville, ohio Posts: 587	nathan is there any rough estimate on the pricing i understand this could change but what is a ball park estimate. thanks

Sep 12, 2009, 01:32 PM	#21
NChronister Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 281	I think it's supposed to be around $70. I know that's a bit more than some of the other toy RC ornithopters, but it really is a much better model. It has a 2.4 GHz radio and more importantaly, it flies much better than any micro model I've flown.

Sep 13, 2009, 09:45 AM	#23
G-LO Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Va.Beach VA. Posts: 84	Hi Nathan , when bird is about ready or close to selling; Can you post some detailed pics? I have saved footage of it from youtube. This is a beautiful little bird close up!

Sep 13, 2009, 05:59 PM	#24
OrniGuy2 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 63	I wonder how well the glide factor is...on the youtube vids it seemed to spiral down everytime it stopped flapping.

Sep 15, 2009, 02:09 AM	#26
OrniGuy2 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 63	Thanks for the post...maybe the spiral was intent and or maybe just sometimes the glide is good...guess we'll see when we are able to purchase it

Sep 15, 2009, 03:05 PM	#27
NChronister Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 281	The glide depends on where the wings stop. Unlike some larger RC ornithopters, the force of lift on the wings does not seem to push the wings up into a V. Therefore the wings will stop at various angles when the motor shuts off. Sometimes the Avitron will glide quite well, and other times it will not glide well. I would say the likelihood of getting a good glide on any given attempt is about the same as with a ratchet-type glide device. I felt it was just like flying one of the larger, more expensive RC ornithopters.

Oct 01, 2009, 09:35 PM	#28
demisemiquaver Just Say No To GMO Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Earth, System of Sol, Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 1,000	Any idea when these will be available? I'd order one in a heartbeat.