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Old Feb 19, 2010, 06:57 PM
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Ken, it may thermal but im sure it will depend on how high Steve can get it
Just short of out of sight will be no problem for Steve!!!

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Old Feb 19, 2010, 10:07 PM
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Think maneuver 12 has a mistake in it with the half roll. Doing an outside loop and exiting on a 45 degree downline. This puts the sailplane upright already. If you put in a half roll, it will be inverted again.

Also, did you mean for the 4/4 rolls in maneuvers 2 and 3, to be full rolls and not the half rolls shown. Were these meant to be 4 point rolls?
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Old Feb 19, 2010, 10:09 PM
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only thing missing is the dreaded 0 of 8
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Old Feb 20, 2010, 06:33 AM
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Cory: Nice catch. I knew I should have flown it with the stick plane. I was hurrying to get it re-posted. Never pays to hurry. I've fixed it. It should be right now. Thanks for keeping an eye on me.
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only thing missing is the dreaded 0 of 8
Ok, what's that one? Is that where you hit the slope at 200 mph and find 0 of 8 pieces your plane is in?

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Old Feb 20, 2010, 09:53 AM
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The rolls labeled 4/4 in maneuvers 2 and 3, are you really wanting 4 point rolls? If so, they should just have a single 4 next to the roll to call out how many points in the total roll.

Other than that, looks pretty good. Are you going to specify that they do it from both directions for the task, even if "convention" says that you don't specify a direction? That will make it a bit harder for people to do and bring it more in line with the G&R task.
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Old Feb 20, 2010, 02:23 PM
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I went back and fixed it. I agree that it would be a good thing to make the snaps and the 4 pt rolls one left and one right. Can we simply state it in the routine description on the requirements page? That's where a person should start from when looking at what's going to be done.
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Old Feb 20, 2010, 06:17 PM
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Good place for it. No reason to put so much info on the diagram's that they get confusing , my flying is bad enuff at that as it is .

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Old Feb 20, 2010, 08:53 PM
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Was talking more about on the first run of the routine, starting from the left. The second run of the routine, starting from the right. That forces people to use the brain, sticks, and thumb muscles in ways that they may not be comfortable with.

I am going to fly this in the sim tomorrow (hopefully). Will let you know how it went. The only thing that I am remotely concerned about is the amount of vertical space those 4 point rolls on the down line will take.
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Old Feb 20, 2010, 10:09 PM
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Hopefully the Vetical 4 point roll won't be an issue(no way of knowing till we start flying it),is so we may have to switch it to a 4 rotation spin.

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Old Feb 20, 2010, 10:31 PM
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did the form change?

I am all set to send in my complete copper voucher but I am noticing that the tasks are a little different on the website than listed on my voucher. Specifically my voucher has 1 - 30 min slope flight and the website lists 2.

My voucher is dated 4/7/2009, is this now obsolete? Do I bother sending it in?
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 06:45 AM
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Hopefully the Vetical 4 point roll won't be an issue(no way of knowing till we start flying it),is so we may have to switch it to a 4 rotation spin.
I wasn't sure about that myself. You guys can decide and let me know. A roll instead of a 4 pt roll might be better though.
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Was talking more about on the first run of the routine, starting from the left. The second run of the routine, starting from the right. That forces people to use the brain, sticks, and thumb muscles in ways that they may not be comfortable with.
Ok, makes sence to me. We can do it the same way as I previously stated.
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 07:13 PM
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Yay! I'm proud to be SSP Member #13!

I know you're all envious of my number , but hey at least I'll be able to remember it!
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 07:58 PM
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A very well done. Now we can call you "Baker Boy"!!!

Cuz ya know 13 is a baker's dozen .

Ken
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 08:28 AM
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Welcome to the club Shoe! I hope you enjoy the jounery as much as Steve and I have (<;


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Old Feb 22, 2010, 08:22 PM
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Tried flying the routine and the 4 point roll on the way down in maneuver 3 is definately an issue. Think the real reason though is the 4 point roll in maneuver 2 kills off the ability to gain an appreciable amount altitude at the start of maneuver 3. One way around this would be to swap #5 with #3.

Could also put the 4 point roll on the way down from the hammerhead turn in #5. All the speed gained in #3 is carried easily thru #4 and would give a hammerhead that would happen quite high.

Still a 4 point roll on the way down eats up a ton of real estate.
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