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Old Feb 17, 2010, 07:25 PM
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Looks good here. Having it on a sheet like that will be handy. Print it off,slap on a clipboard and give to your caller/timer. That way they can see what the manover is to look like.


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Old Feb 17, 2010, 11:27 PM
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pretty simple routine, but I like that you are doing a aerobatic sheet for gliders, unlike imac doing this withthe gliders is a bit more involved with energy managament and knowing how high you need to enter thebox and not run out of altitude. I was lucky enough to watch some full scale fox's doing routines near Garmish Germany back in 2000. very gracful.. unfortuneatly the luftsport I was flying with wouldnt let me try with our old gliders , I may try this routine with my ventus this spring,, it it doesnt snap the wing.
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Old Feb 18, 2010, 06:25 AM
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Looks good here. Having it on a sheet like that will be handy. Print it off,slap on a clipboard and give to your caller/timer. That way they can see what the manover is to look like.
It's also a lot easier than trying to explain it in words.

Thanks guys for the possitive responses. Do you all think it's hard enough since it's the first routine requirement? I think it should be done twice as well. After all, it's going across from a 2K G&R.
With this and a couple more requirement fixes we will have the main program complete. (If there was a smiley doing a happy dance it would go here )
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Old Feb 18, 2010, 08:37 AM
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No, I don't think it is hard enough in comparison to the G&R, even done twice. By this time, haven't they had to do knife edges? If so, add them into the mix a couple of places.
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Old Feb 18, 2010, 10:34 AM
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A 4 point roll could go after the 45 degree, in #2 and/or #8. How about #2 gets 4 point roll to the right, #8 has 4 point roll to the left,or a left and a right?


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Old Feb 19, 2010, 08:41 AM
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That's what I like to see. Guys who aren't afraid to make things harder and more challenging. I'll add to it and make a few changes. BTW, I personally agree with making them go the oposite direction. However, I've always been told it's always pilot's choice when it comes to direction for spins, rolls, etc. as long as you end up in the right attitude. (upright or inverted) Maybe I heard wrong.
Do you like this better? Has knife edge, 4 point rolls, and spins.
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Old Feb 19, 2010, 11:28 AM
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Now we're cooking!!

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Old Feb 19, 2010, 11:34 AM
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You like that do ya? Cool! Now I just have to do this until everyone else chimes in. Do it twice or three times? I think twice would be good. After all you do have to try to memorize it and perfect it enough that it's recognizable enough to pass.
UNRELATED SUBJECT: Now it's off to the shop to build my new 3D electric. I picked up a PA Extra MX to have some fun with. Runs on 6S at 1300 watts. Should be entertaining!
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Old Feb 19, 2010, 01:52 PM
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But will it thermal!!!

Haveing a small clipboard on the transmiter will aid in doing the manuver's,should be legal as they are used by the IMAC and TOC flyer's.

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Ken, it may thermal but im sure it will depend on how high Steve can get it
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Ken, it may thermal but im sure it will depend on how high Steve can get it
Just short of out of sight will be no problem for Steve!!!

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Old Feb 19, 2010, 10:07 PM
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Think maneuver 12 has a mistake in it with the half roll. Doing an outside loop and exiting on a 45 degree downline. This puts the sailplane upright already. If you put in a half roll, it will be inverted again.

Also, did you mean for the 4/4 rolls in maneuvers 2 and 3, to be full rolls and not the half rolls shown. Were these meant to be 4 point rolls?
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Old Feb 19, 2010, 10:09 PM
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only thing missing is the dreaded 0 of 8
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Old Feb 20, 2010, 06:33 AM
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Cory: Nice catch. I knew I should have flown it with the stick plane. I was hurrying to get it re-posted. Never pays to hurry. I've fixed it. It should be right now. Thanks for keeping an eye on me.
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only thing missing is the dreaded 0 of 8
Ok, what's that one? Is that where you hit the slope at 200 mph and find 0 of 8 pieces your plane is in?

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Old Feb 20, 2010, 09:53 AM
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The rolls labeled 4/4 in maneuvers 2 and 3, are you really wanting 4 point rolls? If so, they should just have a single 4 next to the roll to call out how many points in the total roll.

Other than that, looks pretty good. Are you going to specify that they do it from both directions for the task, even if "convention" says that you don't specify a direction? That will make it a bit harder for people to do and bring it more in line with the G&R task.
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