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Old May 08, 2009, 07:03 AM
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NipponDave,

Why are you not fitting the new style of bullet connectors to the motors and ESC's, you stated previously that they are far superior .

Mike
Mike, Louis:

Good question! First because the Zs motors were already in production before the new connectors were out. Second because the "old" style are backwards compatible with everything we've made, and perform just fine when properly matched to motor and ESC.

For the future Larger motors (55 series and up) we'll certainly go with a new connector, as the 4mm long aren't up to it.
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Old May 08, 2009, 07:06 AM
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I would support removal of programmable reverse rotation on general safety grounds. Last year I had to retire a speed controller (not a Hyperion one) because on two occasions it changed motor direction by itself upon power-up. Once is too many!
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Old May 08, 2009, 08:42 AM
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Can you link to some info on these new connectors?

Thanks,
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Old May 08, 2009, 09:43 AM
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David,

Here is a pic of the 3.5mm connectors.



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P.S. David, I noticed we both have exactly 1249 post as of this post!
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Old May 08, 2009, 04:06 PM
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Those connectors bear a close reseamblance to MPJet connectors.

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Old May 08, 2009, 04:32 PM
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David,

Here is a pic of the 3.5mm connectors.



Chris

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P.S. David, I noticed we both have exactly 1249 post as of this post!
Ha, very observant of you and thinks for sharing the pic. Nice connector design by the looks of it, I'll have to try some of those out. And yes Heather, they do very much look like a copycat of the MP design.

Now you've got some catching up to do. Hope all is well across the bridge.

- David
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Old May 09, 2009, 11:24 PM
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Btw, Mike [McCrash], thanks for your patronage of Hyperion products; much appreciated...

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Old May 10, 2009, 06:59 PM
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David,

Will the new Atlas ESCs have the same warning LED as the Titans? Is there any chance of also getting a warning based on mAh used since the voltage warning is a bit last minute usually.

Maybe Hyperion could be the first to put a telemetry option in the ESC and provide a small mAh couner with alarm to stick on your TX?
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Old May 10, 2009, 08:00 PM
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David,

Will the new Atlas ESCs have the same warning LED as the Titans? Is there any chance of also getting a warning based on mAh used since the voltage warning is a bit last minute usually.

Maybe Hyperion could be the first to put a telemetry option in the ESC and provide a small mAh couner with alarm to stick on your TX?
Erling,

Just take a look at the Scorpion HV Spec's as they will be the same.

Mike
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Old May 15, 2009, 03:24 AM
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Dave what is the rpm limit on these motors?
im wanting to use one of the ZS4045 motor in a great planes revolver to see if i can crack 140mph.


Here's one that did 160mph with a 16x16 prop
160mph Great Planes Revolver - electric (4 min 55 sec)
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Old May 15, 2009, 06:01 AM
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Dave what is the rpm limit on these motors?
im wanting to use one of the ZS4045 motor in a great planes revolver to see if i can crack 140mph.


Here's one that did 160mph with a 16x16 prop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL_ZbFv0xFE
The problem isn't the physical rpm limit, but the 14-magnet count. too much work for the ESC so efficiency goes down at much over say 16,000rpm. Much better would be the heli motors with fewer magnets. A high Kv Hs4035 should rock. Btw, Scorpion (with whom we collaborate on motors and ESC now) whipped the world speed record recently with a 35mm version of the heli motor.

Hs Heli motors (pics here) coming out in 3-5 weeks I expect.

David
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Old May 15, 2009, 06:09 PM
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Any details of the inrunners available yet Dave? Any likelyhood of a 16/15/3 or 28-37 equivalent

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Old May 16, 2009, 01:56 AM
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Erling,

Just take a look at the Scorpion HV Spec's as they will be the same.

Mike

DO note however that while the upcoming ATLAS ESC do share most programming features and general layout of current Scorpion ESC (15V~26V types), they are NOT the same as current Scorpion types. They are the same as UPCOMING Scorpion new ESC. Hardware and firmware internals totally changed.

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Old May 16, 2009, 01:57 AM
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Any details of the inrunners available yet Dave? Any likelyhood of a 16/15/3 or 28-37 equivalent

Chris

Yes, but no news anytime real soon. We're busy wrapping up the newest airplane and heli outrunners, and new ESC for now.

David
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The problem isn't the physical rpm limit, but the 14-magnet count. too much work for the ESC so efficiency goes down at much over say 16,000rpm. Much better would be the heli motors with fewer magnets. A high Kv Hs4035 should rock. Btw, Scorpion (with whom we collaborate on motors and ESC now) whipped the world speed record recently with a 35mm version of the heli motor.

Hs Heli motors (pics here) coming out in 3-5 weeks I expect.

David
Dave thanks for the reply

The Revolver in the video spins a 16x16APC prop at 12,010rpm with a AXI brushless out-runner, do you think the HS4035 is still the one to run as Iím planning on running either 12x12 or 14x14 APC props. Will 11,000-12,500rpm be low enough to run one of the ZS4045?

Also would it be easier to mount the ZS4045 compared to the HS4035?

You should make a plane in the 25-40 size which has simular characteristics as the Great Planes Revolver and Hanger 9 Sundowner Formula 1 and is built for speed sport flying (120mph-160mph).

Why has the ZS4045-10 got 100 more watts in power than the ZS4045-12?
Shouldnít they both be 3000watt motor as there the same size?
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