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Old Mar 24, 2009, 11:39 PM
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Flasher 450 VS. HK 450 comparison

I'm starting this thread to take a look at two fairly similar Trex Clones in the same price range.

I just received my Flasher today and I've had my HK for a few months now. I thought it would helpful for guys out there who are looking into the Trex 450 clone market.

The first point I have to make is that I have no affiliation with either companies who are selling these kits and I'm simply doing this to educate those out there who want the most bang for there buck.

I will be posting more info with pictures in the near future.
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Old Mar 24, 2009, 11:49 PM
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I'm assuming your comparing the Flasher PE 450 which is the $60 shipped one and not the Flasher 450 SE V2 compatible version that's $130 shipped. Only reason I held off on the HK was the shipping cost but once SNHobbies offered the SE Kit with free shipping I had to jump on that one.

I can't wait to hear how the comparison goes. My experience so far with the 450 SE V2 kit is that it's almost indistinguishable from a real T-rex SE V2.
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Old Mar 24, 2009, 11:51 PM
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I'm assuming your comparing the Flasher PE 450 which is the $60 shipped one and not the Flasher 450 SE V2 compatible version that's $130 shipped. Only reason I held off on the HK was the shipping cost but once SNHobbies offered the SE Kit with free shipping I had to jump on that one.

I can't wait to hear how the comparison goes. My experience so far with the 450 SE V2 kit is that it's almost indistinguishable from a real T-rex SE V2.
It is the Flasher 450 PE...I should have clarified that!!!
Thanks.
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 12:30 AM
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First off the Flasher comes nicely packed as did the HK. The Flasher however has the bonus of having a nice velvet bag to store your canopy in. I guess once you've painted your canopy this will come in handy.
The other thing worth mentioning are the canopies....the HK's plastic/vinyl is almost impossible to paint and is pitted, ware as the Flashers is smooth plastic which paint should have no problem adhering to after the usual sanding and prep.


THE HEADS
The Flasher is on the left. You'll notice that the HK has a CopterX full aluminum head which I bought after. The Flasher PE comes with a full aluminum swash and aluminum head block and washout. When I compare the stock HK head which I've never used and the Flashers head I would have to say the Flasher has less slop especially in the washout. But the HK's grips look more robust. I believe the Flasher uses the 4mm V2 feathering shaft but I haven't checked yet(I'll confirm this soon)--The HK uses the 3mm SA shaft.

FRAME
The Flasher uses a FG frame and the HK is aluminum. I don't know which one would be considered better. My guess would be the FG is probably stronger.
FG=Fiber Glass.

MORE TO COME SOON
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 07:10 AM
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I too got the HK-450, but did not order my servos and electronics at the same time so so they are still backordered in HK. Took the CopterX deal on ebay also and have the replacement parts waiting for the crashed HK. When the Flasher dropped in price to equal the HK-450 I placed an order and it is scheduled for delivery Friday. I figure I have a bunch of interchangable components that should keep me in the air for some time. I was limited by the number of Rxs I had but thanx to the Dx6i recall I have a spare AR6100. That means I will probably have the HK and the Flasher flight ready.
Looking forward to the build comparison...... Eric
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 07:12 AM
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Who sells the Flasher 450?
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 07:21 AM
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Got it. SN Hobbies.

Anyone else?

Also, I noticed that the Flasher has hex frame screws and I think I recall that the HK450 doesn't. DId you install those or are those an Align replacement?

I have heard that the HK phillips heads strip out easily so you will need to replace them if you plan on taking apart your heli.

Little by little, the Flasher with more metal hed parts seems to be a better deal.

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Got it. SN Hobbies.

Anyone else?

Also, I noticed that the Flasher has hex frame screws and I think I recall that the HK450 doesn't. DId you install those or are those an Align replacement?

I have heard that the HK phillips heads strip out easily so you will need to replace them if you plan on taking apart your heli.

Little by little, the Flasher with more metal hed parts seems to be a better deal.

Frank
Both the Flasher and the HK use hex screws. Your right about the HK's screw heads stripping. The Flashers screws are nice because the hex seems to be a little deeper. The other thing worth noting is that most of the Flashers screws are machine screws because the flasher has an internal metal tube that the screws thread into. The only screws that thread into plastic are the ones that hold the bottom tray and the battery tray. The bearing blocks aren't split like the HKs so they run an internal metal tube from one side to the other which the screws thread into. The Flashers motor mount is aluminum so those screw are also machine thread as well. The HKs motor mount is plastic and for some reason the screws that were installed in that were machine screws...not a good choice. Most of the screws used on the HK are a coarse thread because they are threaded into plastic. Over time these coarse threads have started to strip on my HK...after all they are only threaded into plastic. I've learned not to tighten them too much on the HK after stripping one or two.

I took some pictures of the Flashers screw and tube setup but it's hard to see the metal tube...you'll have to trust me.
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 11:32 AM
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I asked SN about the feathering shaft and it is 3MM

SN made a mistake.....

They are 4MM based on glenn's subsequent photos....
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 11:34 AM
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The Flasher is looking pretty nice. It looks to be more like the EXI standard than the HK450. The EXI includes the metal head parts (Rotor, seesaw, washout, & swash) as well as the metal motor mount (this is important if you have a powerful motor). The EXI also has the metal tubes inside the frame spacers. I really like that option. The all plastic scares me a little. The only real difference I see between the Flasher and the EXI is the frame is alu on the EXI. Keep up the good work glenwyatt, I am interested to hear more.

I also have a real (non-clone) trex 450SEv2 and I must say it flys very similar to the EXI. I have them set up identically except for the gyro and honestly, I have a hard time telling them apart. Now I am no 3D specialist, I am just starting to learn more advanced aerobatics.

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Old Mar 25, 2009, 12:04 PM
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I asked SN about the feather shaft and it is 3MM

I just measured mine and it's the 4mm V2 style. The HK uses the old SA 3mm feathering shaft with no step in it.
Sometimes these guys don't know what they are selling!!
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 12:11 PM
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got my flasher

Hey!! FedX delivered my flasher this morning. Boy this thing is really nice!! I looked through the packages in the kit and the quality looks really good. The metal parts have a really good finish and they all work smoothly, at least by hand. Can't wait to get this thing in the air, but it will be a month or so. I need to get some more servos and another reciever. O Well! Horizon still has my transmitter anyway. But I'm going to put it togather as far as I can. Thanks for the information on the screws, This is my first kit build, I think this is going to get real interesting!
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 12:23 PM
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Sorry about that....

I stand corrected.

Even better, I already have a TRex 450SE V2 so I won't need to stock two different shafts!!

Frank
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Sorry about that....

I stand corrected.

Even better, I already have a TRex 450SE V2 so I won't need to stock two different shafts!!

Frank
No need to apologize!!!
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Old Mar 25, 2009, 12:30 PM
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I am so glad you made this thread b/c after I take a hop with my Rex, I either have a 2 Kings to fix or go out and get one of these instead. I was thinking of getting two hk450s but I think for the little extra (due to shipping costs), this would be the better choice.

I have a feeling I'll be ditching the old Kings since they need about $42- $60 worth of repair.....

Thanks glenwyatt!!

Frank
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