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Old May 07, 2011, 03:48 PM
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Hi

After sticking turbulators, I shrunk aileron deflection, the outer ucinosti than previous large fluctuations. In my subjective opinion, the improved properties in dead air.
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Old May 08, 2011, 04:01 AM
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I can believe your findings on aileron power. Maybe we should do more experiments with turbulators... However, in dead air Aspire steers quite nicely with mostly rudder. I keep ailerons mostly centered while floating.
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Old May 08, 2011, 05:37 AM
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Turbulators using these for over a year, I had them well on their two previous Aspire, when I stuck them at least for many first time I tested, in the early hours + - 5:30 (crazy) and all tests were based on better ...
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Old Sep 16, 2011, 11:58 PM
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can any post their setups . with cg , throws and elevator neutral
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Old Sep 20, 2011, 12:43 PM
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Question - has anyone had an issue with the wing connectors? A friend of mine just finished his standard full carbon Aspire and told me that his wing goes dead when he tightens the bolts down. Only the right flap works, the other 3 servos are dead. Loosen the bolts and it apparently works again.

Just curious if anyone else has had a similar issue wand what they did to resolve it.

Mine is perfect and never had an issue, not have any of the other people I fly with, so this appears to be an isolated issue, but I thought I would ask anyhow.
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Old Sep 20, 2011, 01:06 PM
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Guessing a short in the wiring - maybe with the carbon.
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Old Sep 20, 2011, 01:11 PM
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Never had an issue either. Has to be a short. Check easiest side first... ;-) duh!

Mike

PS the "duh!" was for me. I have a strong tendancy to state the obvious
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Old Sep 20, 2011, 02:08 PM
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Bill have him contact me. This isn't Darwin is it???? LJ
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Old Sep 20, 2011, 02:49 PM
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Problem solved. The plane was re-soldered by the user (inside the fuse) and those wires were the issue. The stock wiring is perfect and not an issue. The moral of the story is don't fix what ain't broke.
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Old Oct 09, 2011, 03:01 AM
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New fuselage for Aspire electro

Hi guys

We are pleased to present to you the hot news from Luboš Pazderka, the first series-produced electro Aspire fuselage , the fuselage is designed for FAI competition, the cone diameter 38 mm, ballast tube. Excellent weapon for FAI competition. Flying weight with Spred tow wing is 1,900 grams.

powerplant: HET2W with Kontronik 5,2:1 gear 125g Castle creation ICE LITE 50 , 3s Hyperion 1100mAh

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Old Oct 09, 2011, 09:17 AM
In F3J size does matter!
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Very nice,

It seems the setup is configured around 400 to 500 watt which is kind of low…I'm assuming it isn't UNLIMITED setup.
Could you tell us a bit about the new rules or proposals this setup aims for?
Also, What is the status of the proposals in the FAI or when will it become an official event?

Roy
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Old Oct 09, 2011, 10:07 AM
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I guess that it is for the new provisinal FAI class from 2012 that has a 30 s window to reach startheight, where you measure the largest height reached from when it leaves your hand to 10 s after motor is turned off, and you deduct 0,5 points for every meter of height up to 200 and then 3 points above that from your flight score.
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Old Oct 10, 2011, 12:26 PM
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I guess that it is for the new provisinal FAI class from 2012 that has a 30 s window to reach startheight, where you measure the largest height reached from when it leaves your hand to 10 s after motor is turned off, and you deduct 0,5 points for every meter of height up to 200 and then 3 points above that from your flight score.
It's an interesting proposal, a bit technical (calibrated specialized equipment?) but offers some interesting strategies for development.
For one it appears that its unwise to launch any higher than 200 meters and since motor time is not measured (?) but limited to 30 seconds then you could size the motor for 200meters/30seconds or 6.6 meters/sec climbs (200 watt/kg?) and use cheaper and lighter motor setups.
You can use the motor to climb your way in the direction of a read and once the climb seems better than it should, you're in a good air (easy to read with an underpowered setup). Then you cut the motor at the lowest altitude you dare (hopefully in the air you found with the motor on) and continue the flight from that altitude gaining some points due to lower climb altitude (lower penalty).
This should reward good pilots for super low climbs and keep the motor system prices reasonable.
My only question is what is its status of this proposal since I couldn't find any info on it on the FAI web site.
Is it being practiced in competitions currently?
Is there a written proposal on the table for the next CIAM meeting?
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Old Oct 10, 2011, 05:23 PM
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It's an interesting proposal, a bit technical (calibrated specialized equipment?) but offers some interesting strategies for development.
For one it appears that its unwise to launch any higher than 200 meters and since motor time is not measured (?) but limited to 30 seconds then you could size the motor for 200meters/30seconds or 6.6 meters/sec climbs (200 watt/kg?) and use cheaper and lighter motor setups.
You can use the motor to climb your way in the direction of a read and once the climb seems better than it should, you're in a good air (easy to read with an underpowered setup). Then you cut the motor at the lowest altitude you dare (hopefully in the air you found with the motor on) and continue the flight from that altitude gaining some points due to lower climb altitude (lower penalty).
This should reward good pilots for super low climbs and keep the motor system prices reasonable.
My only question is what is its status of this proposal since I couldn't find any info on it on the FAI web site.
Is it being practiced in competitions currently?
Is there a written proposal on the table for the next CIAM meeting?
Hello roydor
Read all about the new FAI F5J here, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...as+fai&page=89 and also much good info in the below webpages.

FAI F5J Proposal, http://f5j.eu/w/index.php?title=FAI_F5J_Proposal

FAI F5J limiter spec, http://f5j.eu/w/index.php?title=FAI_F5J_limiter_spec

The best knowledge bank for the FAI-F5J class, Palova Personal Page, http://www.rivamodels.sk/PPP/palo_00en.html
Take your time when you read Palos website, where you will find very good info.

/Ville
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Old Jun 03, 2012, 02:03 PM
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So what are the newest and greatest modifications to the Aspire for 2012?
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