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Old Feb 17, 2009, 03:49 PM
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park etiquette with other RC pilots

I have been enjoying my stock mini super cub at the local park ever since christmas. Yesterday, it was a perfect sunny 60 degrees with 5mph winds, so I was at the park with my MSC.

A kid shows up with a parkzone trojan, stock setup it looked, probably RTF. I walked over, told him his model looked sweet, verified what frequency he was running (72MHz) before continuing my flying on my MSC (27MHz).

He got set up and started out with some pretty crazy maneuvers before crashing at full speed right into the ground, breaking off a wing.

He immediate looked toward me with an appalled face and yelled "You didn't have yours on, did you?!?!"

I was like, "Umm...yeah. I'm on 27 MHz, though."

He said that it just started freaking out on him as if he had no aileron control. I asked him how his control surface check and distance check went, and he just made a face and collected his plane and left the park.

I'm pretty sure I did the right thing in saying hi and verifying his TX frequency, yet he acted like his crash was somehow my fault.

I need someone to tell me I didn't do it!
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 03:50 PM
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you didn't do it
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 03:59 PM
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I've had 27mhz systems interfere with my 72 mhz, but I was standing right next to the person. (<10ft). We had some wierd frequency issues at the field about a week ago where myself and one other guy got shot down. We had all previously checked our channels and none were conflicting. We initially thought it was our two radios doing it to each other, but he got shot down hard once again later in the day when my gear was all turned off and packed up. We realized at that time there were a few guys driving rc cars on the other side of the field, but generally they don't operate on 72. In the end though, we never figured it out 100%, and I haven't had a problem since on the same channel.

You did the right thing checking channels though. I get a little irritated if I see people flying on the opposite side of the park from where most of us fly and they haven't stopped in to check for possible channel overlaps.


Chances are if he was flying the rtf t-28, then his rx was the issue.
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 04:19 PM
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He got set up and started out with some pretty crazy maneuvers before crashing at full speed right into the ground, breaking off a wing.
Makes me think there was no "glitch", rather he flew it into the ground. Nice to have you there as a scapegoat.

foam.
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 04:33 PM
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Sounds like a snotty little kid that his parents bought him his plane
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 04:35 PM
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One other thing, and I may be in the wrong, but if you are in the air and there is a possible conflict, wouldn't it be prudent for HIM to not turn on? That could have brought you down while he hadn't even rolled off the ground yet? No?
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 04:43 PM
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You did standard RC procedure . Ordinary cooperation. Fortunately planes never do BS, and either the kid will learn and do RC right or won't be seen at the park again. Icky
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 04:51 PM
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Cool. Thanks for the booster.
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 05:12 PM
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Their are still lots of people that like to blame other or the plane itself rather then taking responsibility for making a false move and crashing. Was easier for him to blame you.
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 05:28 PM
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It's never your thumbs. Easier to blame the radio. Even easier to blame the 72mhz radio and then say that you should buy a 2.4 ghz system.
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 06:21 PM
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You did the right thing asking the other flier what channel. If there was a conflict it would have showed up as soon as the second transmitter was turned on on the same channel. Not after a few minutes of both planes flying fine. The new flier just does not understand and needs to learn so he/she does look like an idiot when they open their mouths.

Next time you meet up with this kid be respectful and teach him so he knows it was'nt your radio. Then he can figure out what went wrong and fix it (whether its his equipment or his thumbs) before he hurts someone and gets your park closed for RC flying.
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 07:27 PM
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I'm putting my money on the stock radio system glitching. 2.4ghz is also just as reliable as a good 72mhz radio (I.E. JR, Hitec, Futaba, Airtronics- the top 4 brands, and all have/are comming out with 2.4ghz systems). My Hitec Optic 6 works just as good as 72mhz, and the same goes for my Airtronics Vision (which has a fast responce time ).
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Old Feb 18, 2009, 01:56 AM
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Next time you meet up with this kid be respectful and teach him....

That's a really good point, rockbus. Maybe he's just a snotty kid and there's no hope, but maybe he's just a normal adolescent trying to be the macho cool .

If that happens, it's obviously a pain, but maybe it's worth a shot trying to make friends, settle him down and help him out. If it doesn't work, no problem, but it could turn into a neat experience with an RC newbie .

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Old Feb 18, 2009, 06:42 AM
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At least you know what freq he was on... we (7 of us) will be flying and all of the sudden someone will spot another plane at the far end of the park...no idea who or what channel. Its like "Wh^^ the ****", he had to drive PAST us to get back there so why didnt he stop and ask what channels we are on???


No your in the right, you might be at park but if its frequented by rc pilots then you all need to do the basic checks just like a club would.... what channel is everyone on, whats the "pattern", and announce take off and landings just to be safe. I know alot of us fly at parks to avoid the rules of clubs but we still need to use the basic rules to keep the planes and park goers safe, one accident could lead to you losing the priviledge of flying in the park. Remember its city property so they can ban you at any time. We police ourselves so after 4 years we still havent had any problems.
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Old Feb 18, 2009, 01:35 PM
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That's a really good point, rockbus. Maybe he's just a snotty kid and there's no hope, but maybe he's just a normal adolescent trying to be the macho cool .

If that happens, it's obviously a pain, but maybe it's worth a shot trying to make friends, settle him down and help him out. If it doesn't work, no problem, but it could turn into a neat experience with an RC newbie .

Icky
The local slope we fly at is "Uncontrolled" and is a state beach. The regulars want to keep the slope open so we approach anyone new and let them know to check frequencies. I've never heard of anyone we approached react in a negative way. In many cases they're new flyers that would appreciate some help and they'll end up just like the rest of us, hooked on flying.
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