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Old Jul 14, 2014, 05:55 PM
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HobbyKing SuperMicro DSM2 Brushless RX

Looks like the old Beast brick. Possibilities, Possibilities...
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...ar_Servos.html
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Old Jul 14, 2014, 06:01 PM
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Gyro, 1-2 cell operation and FOUR GRAMS?!
Possibilities indeed!
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Old Jul 14, 2014, 10:26 PM
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Would be more attractive if the price is below 30$
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Old Jul 15, 2014, 03:54 AM
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The only thing to watch on these rxers is the lifespan of the motors if they are working continuously in gyro mode. It would be interesting to know how hot they get too. Still, a pretty impressive powerhouse of features for a 4g rx!!
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Old Jul 15, 2014, 10:47 AM
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Four grams "without power cord"
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Old Jul 15, 2014, 04:20 PM
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Four grams "without power cord"
But it's still lighter than a ar6410bl AND it can do 1-2 cell.
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Old Jul 15, 2014, 04:51 PM
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Don't get me wrong. This looks like an interesting new product from HK. I just think it's a little unfair to not 'weigh' it according to what it comes with.

The ar6410bl is much more robust than HK offering, so it's not really a fair comparison. The ar6410bl also has it's own heavy power cords (including motor wires) which 'are' included in the spektrum weight. Chop all the wires, and the weight comparison would be closer than you think. For better servos and higher rated power output. If it were only 1 cell capable.

Anyway, as a 1 cell, brushless, gyro, DSM2 brick it looks promising. Would make a good swap for a UM t28 - if it were a little cheaper.
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Old Jul 15, 2014, 05:00 PM
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"Unfair" might be an understatement. Seeing as the battery wire does come with this HK brick, so why not weigh it too, right?

Main thing I like from this is not having to use an external esc for 1 cell setup. Sometimes there really isn't a whole lot of room to place those esc's, or it just makes the wiring look like a mess.

But weight for an external esc and it's wires need to be accounted for comparison with the ar64x0 series and this HK brick.
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Old Jul 16, 2014, 03:49 PM
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Don't get me wrong. This looks like an interesting new product from HK. I just think it's a little unfair to not 'weigh' it according to what it comes with.

The ar6410bl is much more robust than HK offering, so it's not really a fair comparison. The ar6410bl also has it's own heavy power cords (including motor wires) which 'are' included in the spektrum weight. Chop all the wires, and the weight comparison would be closer than you think. For better servos and higher rated power output. If it were only 1 cell capable.

Anyway, as a 1 cell, brushless, gyro, DSM2 brick it looks promising. Would make a good swap for a UM t28 - if it were a little cheaper.
Just for my education - what makes the Spektrum unit more robust?
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Old Jul 16, 2014, 04:41 PM
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Also, the 6410 does not have programability of the gyros like this does...correct? But this is only 7mm throw as opposed to the 9mm on the 6410l. Tradeoffs.

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Old Jul 16, 2014, 04:54 PM
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Well, it's just a guess mostly...

I could be wrong but the servos look like long throw servos (not that that makes them more robust). I've used the HK micro linear servos, and I don't think they compare in build quality to the Spectrum linear servos (not enough for me to spend more). I've made the assumption that the new HK brick is built to the same level.

The Spektrum bricks have a good reputation for handling power over loads and shorts and such (unless you're talking micro heli boards). The ar6410bl clearly has larger FETs which, if designed properly will handle more current with less heat. For this particular comparison, I feel the ar6410bl is designed for larger models. The 2S only would also imply this. All in all, a heavier duty built brick for 'larger' micro aircraft. And no gyros, as mentioned.
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Old Jul 16, 2014, 06:44 PM
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Well, it's just a guess mostly...
I'm a huge ruzam fan, but....why oh why are you conjecturing here instead of finishing your beautiful Skymaster?????



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Old Jul 16, 2014, 07:12 PM
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Now look what they have gone and done!!

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=56167

must buy, must buy

I'm going to end up living in a tent at this rate
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I like the size and price. It is 5mm smaller than Pks.
Motor terminal is on servo gear side and many people will have trouble soldering the wires. Nevertheless, it is the best news I have heard this year.
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