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Old Mar 28, 2013, 02:58 PM
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I have recently had the same problem, albeit with a very old #11 running the latest firmware.
At last I think the problem is the opposite... Old firmware with new hardware (my key cam is this http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9720)

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If everything fails, I would contact your seller for a replacement
[would you contact the seller for me? in this case the seller is http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53...uk/eletech086]

This is the second key cam that seller sent me after the first one that had the same problem in january... and I just received it yesterday!

Its very sad... I have to send it back again? It took 2 month last time...
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Old Mar 29, 2013, 01:07 AM
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Hi empeabee and Isoprop,

Thank you for the answer. I will buy a #16. It is prety that there is not a simple and robust possibility to debug this type of camera.

Yours,
Georges
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Old Mar 29, 2013, 03:15 AM
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Hi Georges

The #16 is a big improvement - much nicer to use. I still have a #11 but I consider it 'disposable' now!

As an aside there are new versions of the keyfob coming along very shortly that are slightly larger/heavier but will give higher quality ... including the option of 60 fps. E.g.

http://www.chucklohr.com/808/C26/index.html

So you might want to wait a couple of weeks for one of them (depending on cost etc.). They say the #16 will remain in production though.
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Old Mar 29, 2013, 08:47 AM
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Hi Georges

The #16 is a big improvement - much nicer to use. I still have a #11 but I consider it 'disposable' now!

As an aside there are new versions of the keyfob coming along very shortly that are slightly larger/heavier but will give higher quality ... including the option of 60 fps. E.g.

http://www.chucklohr.com/808/C26/index.html

So you might want to wait a couple of weeks for one of them (depending on cost etc.). They say the #16 will remain in production though.
No information about if it will come with AV out ... but it is looking interesting



I see #18 prices are dropping already ...
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Old Mar 29, 2013, 01:05 PM
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At last I think the problem is the opposite... Old firmware with new hardware (my key cam is this http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9720)



[would you contact the seller for me? in this case the seller is http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53...uk/eletech086]

This is the second key cam that seller sent me after the first one that had the same problem in january... and I just received it yesterday!

Its very sad... I have to send it back again? It took 2 month last time...
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Hi Georges

The #16 is a big improvement - much nicer to use. I still have a #11 but I consider it 'disposable' now!

As an aside there are new versions of the keyfob coming along very shortly that are slightly larger/heavier but will give higher quality ... including the option of 60 fps. E.g.

http://www.chucklohr.com/808/C26/index.html

So you might want to wait a couple of weeks for one of them (depending on cost etc.). They say the #16 will remain in production though.
I'm sorry, but I have no relationship with your supplier so can't possibly contact him on your behalf .

I think the problem could be with the new GUI firmware versions. I never had problems with the old, non GUI versions and regret I updated all my old #11s. The new firmware is much better configuration-wise, but pretty useless if it destroys cards and bricks itself.

I know it's no help, but it seems a good number of others have also had problems with this camera so, in the long-run, have to agree with Bill Glover until these problems are fixed.

Tom has mentioned the #16 developer also has a new 1080p in the pipeline, so it may be a better choice than the #26. We'll see when these new generation cameras vaporise. There's no point in speculating.
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 01:02 AM
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please excuse if this is not the perfect place to post this
but I just want a good 720 for basic movies off my small plane
audio is not required (if I have a choice )
I like the look of this on and it is from an ""approved"" vendor (post #2)
but beyond that ? i am lost
please inform me as to performance if you can
yes I know the betterones are coming but I just wanted a cheap good
camera for small plane...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINI-Car-Key...item25699062be

or is this one lots better ?
http://www.sourcingplaza.com/808-car...py-camera.html
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 05:20 AM
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I think the problem could be with the new GUI firmware versions. I never had problems with the old, non GUI versions and regret I updated all my old #11s. The new firmware is much better configuration-wise, but pretty useless if it destroys cards and bricks itself.
Thanks Isoprop... but at last i didn't know (and I still don't know) which firware is istalled. The key cam broke when i tested just out of the box, it was brand new.... and i can't istall another fimware because the key cam is completely died... however... :-)

I contacted the seller saying him if i can change the key cam with another model (number #18 seems to have much solid firmware)... do you think i'm doing the right choice? what do you recommend? I bought from eletech086 and him have more products... i can pay the difference. i would to know which key cam do what i want:
-record in 720p (minimum) [1080p it would be interesting but not required]
-the same dimension and forms of model #11
-and it's very important can save the whole video when battery run out (don't mind if splitted or entire)

and of course don't broke just when i try it... :-)

thanks a lot
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 12:14 PM
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Thanks Isoprop... but at last i didn't know (and I still don't know) which firware is istalled. The key cam broke when i tested just out of the box, it was brand new.... and i can't istall another fimware because the key cam is completely died... however... :-)

I contacted the seller saying him if i can change the key cam with another model (number #18 seems to have much solid firmware)... do you think i'm doing the right choice? what do you recommend? I bought from eletech086 and him have more products... i can pay the difference. i would to know which key cam do what i want:
-record in 720p (minimum) [1080p it would be interesting but not required]
-the same dimension and forms of model #11
-and it's very important can save the whole video when battery run out (don't mind if splitted or entire)

and of course don't broke just when i try it... :-)

thanks a lot
The #18 is identical to the #11! I can only recommend the #16 until the low-battery bug is solved. Unfortunately your seller doesn't stock the #16 because it's from his competitor. Maybe ask your seller to fully test your camera when the battery dies before he sends it to you. I'm afraid I don't have any other advice, it's just a very unsatisfactory situation.
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 12:27 PM
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My #11 today just decided on his own to shut down after 4m10s of video

Battery should not be that low .. and it was not that cold outside, (+3 deg, so above the freezing) ... any idea?

At least it was not a total fail, but I lost over 50% of my test video
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 01:32 PM
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My #11 today just decided on his own to shut down after 4m10s of video

Battery should not be that low .. and it was not that cold outside, (+3 deg, so above the freezing) ... any idea?

At least it was not a total fail, but I lost over 50% of my test video
That's still too cold for a normal duration from a lipo cell. Your battery may also be wearing out. It may charge to essentially full voltage, but cannot maintain voltage as well as it delivers current due to internal cell plating which increase internal resistance.
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 05:13 PM
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please excuse if this is not the perfect place to post this
but I just want a good 720 for basic movies off my small plane
audio is not required (if I have a choice )
I like the look of this on and it is from an ""approved"" vendor (post #2)
but beyond that ? i am lost
please inform me as to performance if you can
yes I know the betterones are coming but I just wanted a cheap good
camera for small plane...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINI-Car-Key...item25699062be

or is this one lots better ?
http://www.sourcingplaza.com/808-car...py-camera.html
Neither of the two cameras you've linked to are 720p, they are lower resolution.

There are several genuine 720p models available, but they are more money than the two SD cameras you've listed, so have a look at Chuck Lohr's website where he lists your options.

I personally like the #16.
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 05:36 PM
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Lighter weight camera?

I've got the key chain camera and weight is about 16g. I'm looking for something about 8g to put on a Hubsan X4. I was hoping someone here might know of something.

Thanks,
Fred
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Old Mar 30, 2013, 05:58 PM
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I've got the key chain camera and weight is about 16g. I'm looking for something about 8g to put on a Hubsan X4. I was hoping someone here might know of something.

Thanks,
Fred
Just look the previous pages of this thread, and you will see how to light up the #11 on a X4

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Old Mar 30, 2013, 06:08 PM
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Oh - cool!

Thanks,
Fred
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Old Mar 31, 2013, 02:47 AM
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thanks airmob

still confused as I thought ...
Video Format : AVI
Video Encode : M-JPEG
Video Resolution: 720*480. ****************

Video Frame Rate: 30 fps

that was what I was looking for...
didnt want to spend 40-50$ on #16 / #16v2
perhaps someone wants to tradeup ...let a good #3/#11 go?

just for kicks can anyone Identify ....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINI-Car-Key...item25699062be

Thanks for you r help
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