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Old Feb 10, 2016, 12:49 PM
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Single Channel Glider .020

Acquired this plane early last year. Came with, I believe is an Ace Pulse Commander RX and an Adams Actuator. Unfortunately I could not use this system because I dont have the corresponding TX, BTW looking for one. What I did is install a modern servo but still use the yoke rudder system. For comparison the plane total weight with Ace RX and actuator = 278 grams.
With Hitec RX and 10 gram servo =260 grams. Both planes were weigh w/o batt.
I am not sure about the identity of the plane, I was told it is a Nomad?
Wingspan = 47", Length = 28". Question Does the Cox .020 has enough oomph to carry this plane.
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 01:07 PM
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Almost certainly a Ted Strader Nomad. Great little R/O glider.
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6264
Plans suggest 020 should be fine.
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 01:24 PM
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At that weight it'll get up there. But it's going to resemble an uphill glide. Just be patient and by the time the engine runs out of fuel at around 90 to 120 seconds it'll be high enough to look around for a thermal or two.

A hint for rudder only flying in wind. If you DO manage to hook a thermal and follow it a ways downwind you may find that you're not making much headway on the return against the wind. When faced with that on my own RO model I found that a series of "S" turns to about 20 to 25 degrees either side of the wind direction dropped the nose enough and sped up the model that it covered far more ground per foot of altitude vs just patiently waiting for it to move when gliding in a straight line. With the S turns it made it back to the launch point. Without the S turns I'd have flown for longer but would have to walk some ways to pick up the model from downwind.
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 05:37 PM
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If you want to use the Adams with conventional modern gear, I do a pulser, it fits in the plane between the rx rudder channel and the Adams.
Skip to 2:10 to see it in action:

Pulse Proportional adapter for Adams-style magnetic actuators (3 min 5 sec)


Glyns pulse model uses one:

MVI 0630 (2 min 3 sec)
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 05:59 PM
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Best tip for single channel is always fly upwind do figure 8s sideways nose into the wind to lose height if you cant penetrate.
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 11:36 PM
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Nice Nomad you have there. Due to the opaque covering, I can't tell if yours has the wing spar that was added to the kit later. Early, non-spar Nomads have a reputation for folding wings if full rudder is applied to spiral out of lift, so proceed accordingly. Yes, the Pee Wee .020 has enough beans to take it upstairs.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 05:34 PM
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C0x .020 Glider

A very big thank you to all you guys for the inputs.
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Old Feb 11, 2016, 06:51 PM
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Best tip for single channel is always fly upwind do figure 8s sideways nose into the wind to lose height if you cant penetrate.
Too bad you weren't there when I lost my Single Channel .020 Glider in the '70s. I should have just held the rudder hard over in one direction. The glider would have spiraled in, but at least I'd still have it.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 02:10 PM
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Nomad .020 glider

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Nice Nomad you have there. Due to the opaque covering, I can't tell if yours has the wing spar that was added to the kit later. Early, non-spar Nomads have a reputation for folding wings if full rudder is applied to spiral out of lift, so proceed accordingly. Yes, the Pee Wee .020 has enough beans to take it upstairs.
Hi,
The wing has a bottom spar only.
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 03:39 PM
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Too bad you weren't there when I lost my Single Channel .020 Glider in the '70s. I should have just held the rudder hard over in one direction. The glider would have spiraled in, but at least I'd still have it.
For gliders I found fishtailing into the wind best to lose height so long as you have a rudder with a bit of authority but just dont point downwind .
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Old Feb 15, 2016, 04:50 PM
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For gliders I found fishtailing into the wind best to lose height so long as you have a rudder with a bit of authority but just dont point downwind .
I had no business flying on such a windy day. My glider had no penetration, and with a brand new Tee Dee .020, the climb rate was crazy. I wasn't the most responsible teenager.
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Old Feb 16, 2016, 12:10 PM
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Don't feel bad Trisquire. I too killed my own first single channel model on its first flight. In my case it was the CG Jr Falcon.

In retrospect and knowing what I know now about RO flying the poor model was in great trim and doing it's hardest to make me look good. But it was all just too much too soon for me (us?) and the model went through all manner of antics of looping and rolling in response to my attempts to get back upwind. All to no avail and the flight ended in a totally shattered model on a building roof.

Just part of growing up I guess....
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I loved my JF first plane I could loop and roll depending on which way I pulled out of a spiral dive wind wise
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[QUOTE=BMatthews;34021821]Don't feel bad Trisquire. I too killed my own first single channel model on its first flight. In my case it was the CG Jr Falcon.

Bruce,
That must have been very common because I experienced the same thing with a Jr Falcon and Mattel single channel, however, mine was not a total loss but rather build, fly, crash, repair repeat till it was too heavy. Never was successful till I got a Dick's Dream.

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Old Feb 17, 2016, 01:49 PM
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My first fly with single chanel and crash after 10 second was with a Graupner Piaggio in 1962 .
But it was also my first fight for ever in Rc at 17 year old with no help whatever .
I keep the remaining parts for more than 50 year on top of a Wardrobe in a bag .
And two years ago I rebuilt it .
And it fly nicely ( I have added elevator and in a second time ailerons)

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