Originally Posted by Eli Lipschitz

It's against American values for other people to be paying for other's luxury.

Having sex is a luxury. It is your responsibility if you use it for something else other than children. If you want to throw human nature into the mix like an annoying liberal, human nature does not involve birth control-it involves having the kid like a man, not like a scardicat.

It's not a luxury, it's the strongest drive we have after self preservation.

Being responsible includes preventing pregnancy.

It's a bit rich to call 'continuation of the species' a luxury!

What's next - breathing air - luxury

Drinking water

Food

Sleeping

Originally Posted by dll932

It's not a luxury, it's the strongest drive we have after self preservation.

Being responsible includes preventing pregnancy.

Yes it is a luxury. Your own self control determines if you want to screw around, not "drive". Your "drive" is an excuse for your lack of personal control. Nobody is stopping you, but it is your responsibility-not your next door neighbor's.

Originally Posted by Eli Lipschitz

Yes it is a luxury. Your own self control determines if you want to screw around, not "drive". Your "drive" is an excuse for your lack of personal control. Nobody is stopping you, but it is your responsibility-not your next door neighbor's.

Rubbish (sorry man but that is utter B/S)

The entire reason that we have the 'lack of control' is to procreate the species!


Sure you learn to limit it - but 'limiting' it so often proves insufficient to prevent the inevitable.

Originally Posted by ENGINETORQUE

Rubbish (sorry man but that is utter B/S)

The entire reason that we have the 'lack of control' is to procreate the species!


Sure you learn to limit it - but 'limiting' it so often proves insufficient to prevent the inevitable.

I don't think this is your intent; BUT this reads like your trying to justify the actions of rapists.

Continuation of species or destruction of it?

Originally Posted by P-51C

I don't think this is your intent; BUT this reads like your trying to justify the actions of rapists.

You're correct - it wasn't my intent

So to clarify - 'legal' and 'morally acceptable' relationships where babies arrive unplanned, do so for the reason I put forward!

Originally Posted by ENGINETORQUE

Rubbish (sorry man but that is utter B/S)

The entire reason that we have the 'lack of control' is to procreate the species!


Sure you learn to limit it - but 'limiting' it so often proves insufficient to prevent the inevitable.

NO it is not rubbish. We are not animals, we are people. If you cannot control yourself, that is your ownproblem. Not mine. If you have a kid, you pay for that kid all the way-unless you are disabled, at that point many people will chip in. Otherwise, birth control is coming from your wallet. It is hilarious that there are people who want birth control to be covered by tax payers-lma0! Are you a socialist?

Originally Posted by Eli Lipschitz

NO it is not rubbish. We are not animals, we are people. If you cannot control yourself, that is your ownproblem. Not mine. If you have a kid, you pay for that kid all the way-unless you are disabled, at that point many people will chip in. Otherwise, birth control is coming from your wallet. It is hilarious that there are people who want birth control to be covered by tax payers-lma0! Are you a socialist?

you missed my point (which was not to do with responsibility - much less politics)

Originally Posted by ENGINETORQUE

It's a bit rich to call 'continuation of the species' a luxury!

Over six billion people say that you're wrong.

Originally Posted by madsci_guy

Over six billion people say that you're wrong.

They do

Point em out - every one of em - I don't believe you

Originally Posted by ENGINETORQUE

They do

Point em out - every one of em - I don't believe you

Explain to me again why other people and myself sholud pay for your rubber when you pick up some woman at Macfarlane's pub..............

Originally Posted by Eli Lipschitz

Explain to me again why other people and myself sholud pay for your rubber when you pick up some woman at Macfarlane's pub..............

You sir - need to concentrate as you read - you have clearly not inwardly digested what I wrote, which explains your going off at a tangent!

Have another go

Originally Posted by Eli Lipschitz

... If you want to throw human nature into the mix like an annoying liberal, human nature does not involve birth control-it involves having the kid like a man, not like a scardicat.

Silly conservative. Men father children; they don't have them.

I think someone needed to pay better attention during health class.

Originally Posted by Sport Flyer

Silly conservative. Men father children; they don't have them.

I think someone needed to pay better attention during health class.

Explain to me again why other people and myself sholud pay for your rubber when you pick up some woman at Unemployed Tavern.

The answer: you (the freeloaders) want free stuff on the backs of other people, especially rich people who pay most of the taxes. And yes, rich people pay for most of the government-over 3 / 4 of the governments revenue is from people who make $ 100,000 or greater.

Nobody minds your sexual life, just pay for it yourself. Sex is not like fire departments or the military, it is your own thing only. All of this is not a public thing, it is a private thing-even if you have a child, this is a private thing. If you want to bother your insurance company, then do that. But do not bother the government for rubber-or me for that matter. There is no other argument or other side, all this is fact.