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Old Aug 01, 2014, 10:48 AM
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HobbyKing - Perseus Glider

Right.. kicking off this thread to discuss the Perseus Glider.

To be precise.. this one:


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...85mm_PNF_.html

HobbyKing Daily - Perseus Glider (3 min 42 sec)


I recently purchased on of these models - so thought a good idea to give my general feedback & thoughts on the model.

Here goes...

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First thoughts. Looks quite good.

Moulding is good - and wing construction excellent. Every rib is capped - and the wing is very stiff.

I test plugged everything together - no problems. The model even balances pretty much on spot without adding any weight.

The wings come in bubble wrap bags. Bit like massive padded envelops. So all in good order. Good also to see that the flaps are hinged on the correct side so that crow can be achieved!!

Only minor criticisms.

1. A little bit of film sag. But to be fair this is expected and will only need a heat gun to resolve.

2. The wing tips look like they have had a bit of a bang in transit. I suspect they where not secured well enough in the box and have taken a side impact. So the thinnest bit has a small bit of crush. This is very minor and will take me only 5 - 10 minutes to fix.

Gut feeling... this model is well built, and looks to be a good performer.

Compared to the stuff from R2. The build quality is far superior. Make no mistake. I like the stuff R2 have. Hell.. I sell it on slopeside.co.uk. But this is of a higher standard. How it translates to flight performance.... I will know later this week :-)





Flight report.

I only had 20 minutes to fly - so just a quick climb out and hunt for lift.

My results are.

The perseus :

- Climbs out. 70 degrees.
- tracks. Clean and straight.
- thermal turns. Excellent.
- wing flutter. None.
- aerobatics. Medium - can roll, loop etc.

Is it worth it?

Oh yes! I have flown the passer and the raptor. This model out classes then vt far. It feels like a moulded glider.

I am a very happy bunny!
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Old Aug 01, 2014, 11:13 AM
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Old Aug 01, 2014, 11:29 AM
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Old Aug 01, 2014, 02:39 PM
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I am off on Sunday for a whole week of flying in South Wales.

Wind is reported to me light so I anticipate lots of Perseus action.

I will post more details and pics on my return.
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 04:35 AM
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I am off on Sunday for a whole week of flying in South Wales.

Wind is reported to me light so I anticipate lots of Perseus action.

I will post more details and pics on my return.
Excellent.

Just wondering what size lipo you used for your maiden and/or plan to use?

I've see suggestions from different sources so far from 1300 through to 2200 3S!
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 04:46 AM
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The lipo sits under the wing - so does not affect the cog.

I have used a 1600mah pack. I found my 2200mah packs where able to fit - but a pain as was so tight!
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 04:47 AM
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I was sincerely interested when I read first time your enthusiastic review, but... when I scrolled down to the price... what a shock !
Maybe I am a bit biased, but I think the price is not what most people expects from HK... and too high for a classic wing build, imo.
For half these money there are several topmodel czech builder models at esprit, equivalent build quality and probably performance, like Astra, Avia, Prelude, Pegasus. Or, for same money, the Pulsar 2, completely another beast class...
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 04:55 AM
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The lipo sits under the wing - so does not affect the cog.

I have used a 1600mah pack. I found my 2200mah packs where able to fit - but a pain as was so tight!
Thanks again Rob

I've got a few 1300s which I might be able to get by with for the initial flights.

Cheers
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 04:58 AM
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The price is high. But not for what you get.

To quality is much what you find in any high end European model. These are similar in price.

It's important to understand that HK are bringing in more and more high end models.

Quality does come at a price. If you want a similar sort of model there are plenty of cheaper options. But they do have issues, and the are not finished at the same standard.

Essentially.. You pay for what you get!
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 05:00 AM
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As a comparison... And referencing one of the gliders you mentioned.

The Pulsar2 normally sells round $600 to $700, and you still need to add ESC, motor and servos.

So yes... A superb model - but it will cost allot more in the end!
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 05:34 AM
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One of the guys at our club today had a beautiful new F5J style composite 3.2 M sized composite glider (CF reinforced).

I quizzed him on it and it was a Chinese build but from Espirit Models.

He thought that was a good buy still for over $1000 landed in Australia with no electrics.

I know it was a bigger glider but it still seemed to make the Perseus look like a reasonable price to me!
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As a comparison... And referencing one of the gliders you mentioned.

The Pulsar2 normally sells round $600 to $700, and you still need to add ESC, motor and servos.

So yes... A superb model - but it will cost allot more in the end!
This is 2.5m, at price range above, the 2m is under $500.
http://www.espritmodel.com/pulsar-2-5e-pro-ref-arf.aspx
http://www.espritmodel.com/pulsar-2s...plane-arf.aspx

Didn't noticed the Perseus is fully equipped, but I wouldn't spend more than $150 for such model electronics, so not a big save, imo.
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 07:52 AM
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This is 2.5m, at price range above, the 2m is under $500.
http://www.espritmodel.com/pulsar-2-5e-pro-ref-arf.aspx
http://www.espritmodel.com/pulsar-2s...plane-arf.aspx

Didn't noticed the Perseus is fully equipped, but I wouldn't spend more than $150 for such model electronics, so not a big save, imo.
But that is your personal choice.

If you purchased all the parts - then added the time to install it all.. well you get to the end price!

Each additional bit of work does take time to complete.

In my experience - the more you pay - the less you have to do to actually get flying.
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What an interesting phenomenon.

HK has a deserved reputation for selling inexpensive and cheap products. (NOTE: Inexpensive products are not always cheap.) The nature of Chinese quality control means that a certain percentage of shipped items are defective. The end result is that we wish that they would charge a little more to ensure they are at least selling products that work out of the box. But?

When they introduce higher end products, priced accordingly, our conditioning kicks in and we wonder how the heck they can justify charging more. It will be interesting to see if we can break our programming and actually purchase enough of said higher end products for them to continue offering them.

As for the Perseus itself. One could easily spend more on a glass/balsa glider from Europe. One could easily pay the price of the Perseus or more for just a carbon fuse from Europe. If they maintain consistent quality it looks like a very good deal. I would like to see them offer a kit version to see just how much they are charging for electronics and whether one could beat their price and/or end up with higher quality. Plus? If the price is right one could scrap the balsa wings and bag a set to order and stick them on the carbon fuse for an even nicer plane.

Cheers!
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 09:39 AM
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For half these money there are several topmodel czech builder models at esprit, equivalent build quality and probably performance, like Astra, Avia, Prelude, Pegasus. Or, for same money, the Pulsar 2, completely another beast class...
I agree that the sticker price was a shocker.

I couldn't find but one plane at esprit that matched the Perseus and compared to that plane, the Perseus is a deal perhaps.
Here is a comparable model from Esprit. $950
http://www.espritmodel.com/store-dis...eady-blue.aspx

If you found other comparable models for 1/2 the price, please list them.
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