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Old Apr 17, 2015, 10:05 AM
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hi guys,

i want to get back into flying(flown 2/3 years ago) but that was with the ez hawk 3ch brushless with AET.
now i want to go with a scratchbuild, i prefer the tiny trainer.
but thats nog easy to make fit with 6mm depron.(DTF is 5mm?)
my question, is there maybe an easyer plane to adapt the 6mm foam thickness?
also im not that good with hotglue gun(i own 2, 1is 10 watt, and the other is 30 watts)
wich would be the best gun to use?

i allready have everything.
emax 1806 2280kv
10amp emax esc (with blheli?(the label sayd so))
2s 500mah
3s 500mah
4 sg90, 9 gram servo's
also got 5030 props and 6030 props(wich don't fit the emax threaded shaft)

could u guys help me with some advise on building a FT (like) plane from 6mm depron?
greetings from holland
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Old Apr 17, 2015, 10:19 AM
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Hi Jhsa,

You can built durable models with DTF w/o removing the paper. You just have to brush/sweep oļl based minwax warnish on just before painting your plane. Personnally I'm adding a layer of warnish in spray at the end.
You can add a carbon spar (arrow) and you will have a nice and durable model.

Here is my 44 po Magnatilla I've flown for a years now (intensive flight) and she's still looking pretty good .

Flyced.
Thanks for your reply. Nice looking model you have there.. The wing profile looks really round and smooth, was it also built with foamboard?

The problem with minwax is that I can't find it here where I live. Therefore my questions about what it is made of, and what it is normally used for, so I can find a similar product here. Is it some kind of varnish? some kind of primary? I know it has polyurethane, but there are many forms of it as far as I know...

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Old Apr 17, 2015, 11:11 AM
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hi guys,

i want to get back into flying(flown 2/3 years ago) but that was with the ez hawk 3ch brushless with AET.
now i want to go with a scratchbuild, i prefer the tiny trainer.
but thats nog easy to make fit with 6mm depron.(DTF is 5mm?)
my question, is there maybe an easyer plane to adapt the 6mm foam thickness?
also im not that good with hotglue gun(i own 2, 1is 10 watt, and the other is 30 watts)
wich would be the best gun to use?

i allready have everything.
emax 1806 2280kv
10amp emax esc (with blheli?(the label sayd so))
2s 500mah
3s 500mah
4 sg90, 9 gram servo's
also got 5030 props and 6030 props(wich don't fit the emax threaded shaft)

could u guys help me with some advise on building a FT (like) plane from 6mm depron?
greetings from holland
You could scale up the plans to where 5mm ( at 100% ) becomes 6mm ( 116% - 117% ? ) .
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Old Apr 17, 2015, 02:59 PM
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The problem with minwax is that I can't find it here where I live. Therefore my questions about what it is made of, and what it is normally used for, so I can find a similar product here. Is it some kind of varnish? some kind of primary? I know it has polyurethane, but there are many forms of it as far as I know...

Joćo
Jhsa - Minwax is a company that produces finishes for cabinetry and furniture. One of their products is Minwax Polycrylic and that's what many of us use for waterproofing and gluing purposes. It's usually referred to as a polyurethane finish, but it is actually a blend of acrylic and poly as the name implies. You can get data sheets and info from the Minwax web site.
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Old Apr 17, 2015, 04:42 PM
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Thanks for your reply. Nice looking model you have there.. The wing profile looks really round and smooth, was it also built with foamboard?

The problem with minwax is that I can't find it here where I live. Therefore my questions about what it is made of, and what it is normally used for, so I can find a similar product here. Is it some kind of varnish? some kind of primary? I know it has polyurethane, but there are many forms of it as far as I know...

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Jsha,

Thanks for your kind words! Yes tke wing is also build with DTF .... the little secret is to remove the inside paper at the top of the profile so that it curve smooth and very easily
For the minwax you can easily remplace it by a traditionnal wood varnish OIL BASED ( the one you dilute with therebentine or white spirit)
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Old Apr 17, 2015, 05:21 PM
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Jsha,

Thanks for your kind words! Yes tke wing is also build with DTF .... the little secret is to remove the inside paper at the top of the profile so that it curve smooth and very easily
Now, this is a good trick that I might try

Thanks to all of you guys.. Will try to start cutting the parts tomorrow..
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I have confirmed that 99 cent Only stores now carry Adams foam board
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Old Apr 18, 2015, 12:39 PM
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Anyone know a good free program for windows or linux to tile the PDF? I just repositioned all the parts on inkscape so it uses less paper. But the adobe reader only prints posters in landscape mode? Or am I missing something? instead of 9 sheets wants to print 15..
For that I'd better used the tiled plans from FT.

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jhsa:

The free adobe reader will tile a poster sized plan into A4 or letter sized sheets. Look up how to tile posters using adobe reader and the version you are using. It is also a great way to resize A0 size plans.

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I know it can be a waste of paper, but i normally print as they come from FT.

Then, i arrange the parts i have rough cut to get the most out of my foam.
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I know it can be a waste of paper, but i normally print as they come from FT.

Then, i arrange the parts i have rough cut to get the most out of my foam.
That's what I did as well

Ok, another question.. Is it me or the power pod stay at an angle in the Duster?

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I just built a nutball, I stripped the paper and coated with hobbyking tape..
weather resistant, strong and I think it will be lighter
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I just built a nutball, I stripped the paper and coated with hobbyking tape..
weather resistant, strong and I think it will be lighter
It is too late for you now, I know, it started with one Nutball and now I have
six. Plus two retired ones and I am working on another.

Stop now while there is hope for you. Get help now!
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It is too late for you now, I know, it started with one Nutball and now I have
six. Plus two retired ones and I am working on another.

Stop now while there is hope for you. Get help now!
My first one was based on flite test plans, but with 6mm depron and was rather heavy for the rexommended electronics (and I did not have a slow fly prop)
I just ordered one today from my LHS!

I hope they are addictive as they are so easy to build
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I use a Powerup 250 Slofly with a 8X6 GWS SF, about 75W. Power is not a problem.
I use a 2s 1300 to balance.

Paper on Dollar General board, same as Dollar Tree.

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