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Old Jun 03, 2010, 05:21 PM
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Old ProBar Sailwinch?

I'm trying to solve the mystery of who made the sail-winch.
Any comments welcome and information where I can obtain plastic or metal gears?The worm gear is worn and needs replacement.
Is the winch still in production or the maker offering up any parts?
I can get the original RE-360 MFA-COMO motor,new and improved Hall's Effect potentiometer and new digital servo amp control.
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Old Jun 05, 2010, 02:02 PM
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I think it was made by Dumas.
Then again it might not have been
A little further digging revealed the late (?) Don Prough of Probar Design
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Old Jun 05, 2010, 09:25 PM
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Try stockdriveproducts.com for almost anything, we use them at work for obsolete and hard to find drive components. Great service. Clyde
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Old Jun 06, 2010, 12:49 PM
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Mystery Sail-Winch

It is not a ProBar winch according to the photos of his winch.His winch gearset is sandwiched between 2 plate frames and does not resemble this one.Maybe you can post an image but I am skeptical.
Thanks for the web-link : stockdriveproducts.com
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Old Jun 19, 2010, 01:14 PM
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I'm trying to solve the mystery of who made the sail-winch.
Any comments welcome and information where I can obtain plastic or metal gears?The worm gear is worn and needs replacement.
Is the winch still in production or the maker offering up any parts?
I can get the original RE-360 MFA-COMO motor,new and improved Hall's Effect potentiometer and new digital servo amp control.
Regards,
John
There must be someone out there that was using this model sail-winch in the 1990's?
Regards,
John
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Old Jun 19, 2010, 08:19 PM
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John, I recently inherited a Magic Dragon US One Meter from my father circa 1983. The winch looks a lot like yours. It was purchased from Ray Ozmun (Magic Dragon designer and molder) and is a Probar winch. It is different from the "Dumas" Probar winches. Clyde
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Old Jun 20, 2010, 03:17 PM
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Hi Clyde,
Thanks for the info.
I sourced out all of the gears from Berg.The gears are aluminum anodized 303 stainless steel with the exception of the bronze final gear on the potentiometer shaft.The potentiometer can be upgraded to a Hall's Effect type for better control.The analog servo amplifier can be upgraded to digital.All of the bearings are upgraded to stainless steel flanged ball bearings.Also changing the ss chassis to a milled extruded aluminum.
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Old Jun 21, 2010, 01:30 PM
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Sail-Winches

Here are some images of the Probar and Probar-Dumas winches.
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Old Jun 27, 2010, 12:25 PM
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John, I just went into the musty dusty archives in my basement. If yours has a stainless steel frame then it is a W-75 Probar winch. Quote from info sheet " The W-7 is geared for boats of 1100 sq. in. or less (transit time is less than 5 seconds). The W-75 uses the same gearing as the W-7 but has a stainless steel frame that weighs 1/4 oz. more. The extra stiffness provided by the SS frame allow this winch to be used on boats of larger sail area than the standard W-7." My father's boat uses the W-5 (less than 700 sq. in. sail area). W-6 has a capacity of up to 900 sq. in. sail area. Hope this helps, Clyde
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Old Jun 28, 2010, 12:28 PM
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Thanks
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John, I just went into the musty dusty archives in my basement. If yours has a stainless steel frame then it is a W-75 Probar winch. Quote from info sheet " The W-7 is geared for boats of 1100 sq. in. or less (transit time is less than 5 seconds). The W-75 uses the same gearing as the W-7 but has a stainless steel frame that weighs 1/4 oz. more. The extra stiffness provided by the SS frame allow this winch to be used on boats of larger sail area than the standard W-7." My father's boat uses the W-5 (less than 700 sq. in. sail area). W-6 has a capacity of up to 900 sq. in. sail area. Hope this helps, Clyde
Clyde,
Can you e-mail the info sheet?
I will reward you!
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Old Jun 29, 2010, 09:00 PM
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John, I tried to scan the sheets that I have. The originals are not good enough. I will take them to work and try the copier. These pages were catalog sheets with "how to" information and items for sale. Have not found any other information on my father's W-5 winch (he kept everything else HAHA). Will keep looking. Clyde
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Old Jun 29, 2010, 10:45 PM
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Thanks Clyde.
You are an officer and a gentleman!
Any photos of the winch would be great,too
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Old Jul 01, 2010, 03:42 PM
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Clyde,
I'm dying from the suspense here!
It is sort of a forensic autopsy mystery.
My winch is spread out on the workbench in pieces and I am redesigning the entire winch.I sourced out a really good Hall's Effect potentiometer that is water-proof,metal gears,Boca ceramic hybrid ball bearings,digital servo amplifier and extruded aluminum chassis.I will also make a molded polycarbonate dust cover for the motor and servo amp.
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Old Jul 02, 2010, 02:49 AM
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John, once it's finally assembled, tested and installed, a video of the boat sailing would be great. It's really been a model of determination and perseverance.
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