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Old Oct 09, 2014, 08:25 PM
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I've heard that you can prolong the life of these motors somewhat by oiling them regular with Trintiy epic Turbo drops through the 2 holes in the front of motor from when they are new. One drop per hole.(this is addressed somewhere on this website)Haven't tried this myself yet but intend to now as the winter indoor season begins again. Otherwise the stock motors appear to have a poor lifespan and easily damaged.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 12:52 PM
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I had this happen yesterday for the first time after maybe a dozen flights thus far. Flight control surfaces worked but, motor did not. I unplugged and re-plugged the battery and all was well. It flew fine after that.
I was having that problem before. Just had a flight, then went for a 2nd battery, motor wouldn't start. Tried 5 other different batteries and the motor wouldn't start for any of them. What next after unplugging/replugging fails?
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 01:03 PM
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I was having that problem before. Just had a flight, then went for a 2nd battery, motor wouldn't start. Tried 5 other different batteries and the motor wouldn't start for any of them. What next after unplugging/replugging fails?
To answer my own question, wait 5 minutes and make a post on rcg, then it will run fine. Was wondering if it's overheating, but it's cool out there (49f) and the motor and brick didn't even feel warm after the last flight.

Also, I think I have a new favorite battery. Microheli 200 seems to have all the power of the e-flight 150 and hyp 160, maybe more, and a bit more run-time.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 02:32 PM
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You might also try cycling the tx off and on again between batteries and see if that makes any difference.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 09:46 PM
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Maybe a firmer press when connecting the battery too. Had several flights without issue this evening. Recorded one of them. Long way to go for my piloting, but I've come along well since picking up this plane.

AS3xtra (5 min 1 sec)
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 03:50 PM
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Nice looking video with a great backdrop! It looks real good for a stationary camera view, and I was thinking after a few minutes I felt like I was watching fish swimming in an aquarium... very relaxing!
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 03:58 PM
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 09:38 PM
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I am getting one of these for the winter. What kind of run times and with what battery do you recommend??? Looks like a nice little airplane. thx
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 07:29 AM
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Motor start

I have noticed that you have to give some throttle and then push the prop with your finger to make the motor start.
I have oiled the motorshaft and think it helps.

It´s a nice plane.

But you have to use the original batteries. VEry important to keep the weight to a minimum. Battery capacity very important. 45C in original battery! Use that!

I have about 5 min flight with E-flite battery 150mAh 45C

I like the AS3Xtra.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 09:21 PM
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I have noticed that you have to give some throttle and then push the prop with your finger to make the motor start.
Sounds like a worn or damaged motor if prop and gearbox are not hanging up on something . A good motor does not need hand assist.
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 10:12 PM
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I have noticed that you have to give some throttle and then push the prop with your finger to make the motor start.
My J-3 Cub went through 5 or 6 motors that wore out like that. My P-51 Mustang and Polecat wore out 8 motors like that.
They are tiny brushed motors with a limited lifespan.

Now I mostly fly UMX airplanes with brushless motors that last forever.
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Old Oct 22, 2014, 03:54 AM
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Worn out motor

Yes, you are so right!
I tried to oil and solder better white thread to the motor as described earlier in the thread. See #1760 from PESP.
But NO!
Nothing helps. It´s a worn out motor, and I have just used it for about 6 month.
Maybe 50 flights....
Thats not good at all. HORIZON HOBBY needs to use brushless in theire models!!
Otherwise they will loose goodwill.
I bought a new model. But not again due to short lived motors!

Not good at all Horizon Hobby !!


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Sounds like a worn or damaged motor if prop and gearbox are not hanging up on something . A good motor does not need hand assist.
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Old Oct 22, 2014, 06:04 AM
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Yes, you are so right!
I tried to oil and solder better white thread to the motor as described earlier in the thread. See #1760 from PESP.
But NO!
Nothing helps. It´s a worn out motor, and I have just used it for about 6 month.
Maybe 50 flights....
Thats not good at all. HORIZON HOBBY needs to use brushless in theire models!!
Otherwise they will loose goodwill.
I bought a new model. But not again due to short lived motors!

Not good at all Horizon Hobby !!
Throw a bl Brunner in that plane and you'll be happy. I know I am. All I have to do is replace the main gear and oil the bearings, thatsbthe only maintenance requirements. The gear on the prop shaft last around 60 flights before it wears out then its just a few bucks for 2 New shafts which is cheaper than constantly buying brushed motors.
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Old Oct 22, 2014, 08:03 AM
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Throw a bl Brunner in that plane and you'll be happy. I know I am. All I have to do is replace the main gear and oil the bearings, thatsbthe only maintenance requirements. The gear on the prop shaft last around 60 flights before it wears out then its just a few bucks for 2 New shafts which is cheaper than constantly buying brushed motors.
Replace the motor over and over or get a better motor then replace the gear then the motor then the gear again then the motor again?

The Horizon Hobby UMX brushless airplanes use motors that last forever and have no gears to wear out. But they use two-cell batteries.
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Old Oct 22, 2014, 09:31 AM
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Replace the motor over and over or get a better motor then replace the gear then the motor then the gear again then the motor again?

The Horizon Hobby UMX brushless airplanes use motors that last forever and have no gears to wear out. But they use two-cell batteries.
What was I saying was to replace the brushed motor with a 1s bl inrunner. Its cheaper to replace the plastic gear than it is to constantly replace the brushed motor.
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