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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:16 PM
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any "worker" that knew about it was most likely profiting from the substitution...not that hard to figure out. either way the blame goes to the company as they are ultimately responsible for their employee's actions.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:22 PM
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Are you so biased that when a company breaks the law, puts the public at risk, you can't see it?
The Government didn't do this, Companies sold horse meat to other companies as beef.
Not unions, not politicians, none government companies.
They did it to make more money than they would operating within the law.
They did it with no consideration to the people who would eat the meat.
It took a Government to find out that capitalists had endangered the public.
How about that?
Shaming?
Abject failure that is capitalism?
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any "worker" that knew about it was most likely profiting from the substitution...not that hard to figure out. either way the blame goes to the company as they are ultimately responsible for their employee's actions.
Zagnut, did you notice the complete and total absence of the concept "person or people" in his post?

This is classic socialist, statist thinking.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:36 PM
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Zagnut, did you notice the complete and total absence of the concept "person or people" in his post?

This is classic socialist, statist thinking.
the horse meat was found in processed foods which are usually the product of "companies" and not the local butcher or farmer....
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:53 PM
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And there we have it folks.... companies are people too.. but not the local butcher... unless he's a one man show.. but if he hires help... well then...

I simply have no idea how the left functions... at all.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 02:54 AM
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Are you so biased that when a company breaks the law, puts the public at risk, you can't see it?
Certainly looks that way.

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The Government didn't do this, Companies sold horse meat to other companies as beef.
Correct
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Not unions, not politicians, none government companies.
They did it to make more money than they would operating within the law.
They did it with no consideration to the people who would eat the meat.
Correct.
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It took a Government to find out that capitalists had endangered the public.
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How about that?
Shaming?
Abject failure that is capitalism?
Yep. This is definitely not something which can be blamed on government.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 03:11 AM
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It would appear that some more realistic labelling is being applied to crisps, at least..........
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
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And there we have it folks.... companies are people too.. but not the local butcher... unless he's a one man show.. but if he hires help... well then...

I simply have no idea how the left functions... at all.
Yeah, right.
I'll believe that "companies are people too" as soon as Texas executes one.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 10:29 AM
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What is wrong with eating horse meat?
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 10:41 AM
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What is wrong with eating horse meat?
There's nothing wrong with it if (cheaper) horse meat is declared in the contents, instead of trying to con the customer by labelling it 100% beef.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 07:10 PM
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I understand that horse meat is routinely labeled as such and routinely eaten in some parts of Europe. So the problem is with fraud and mislabeling by companies.

A colleague told me about when he was a poor student at Stanford. He and his room mates would buy frozen horse meat sold for pet food and have it for supper.

One time in Mexico, I had chile con carne made from burro. It was good.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 02:49 AM
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Horse and cow taste the same - look the same - cook the same (similar anyway)

The issue (for me) isn't the animal - it's the source
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Source? lol

PepsiCo was using BVO in multiple beverages, and allowed by those suppose to protect us. Really Ironic since many of you Religiously have faith in the "idea" that government will protect you.
Horse meat will be the same as chicken meat and beef when it comes to being full of antibiotics etc...... It matters not if it was going through proper channels or being labeled.

Monsanto just spent $40 Million to block labeling of GMO, and then the U.S. government gives Monsanto $40 Million to advertise GMO to Europe.

Processed foods? I'd love to see an "honest" list of other processed foods ya'll are eating from those complaining about the source of the horse meat. I'll bet that not a single person would be honest about that list of 'other' processed foods.

I will give the UK credit though, on a whole they eat less processed foods than America.

IMO, More dangerous than carcinogenic, more dangerous than antibiotics, more dangerous than aspartame,
Hydrogenated soybean oil !

I do agree with the concerns of the "source" being an issue only on the grounds of sanitation issues. However for the rest of the 'worries' about being fit for human consumption... I think there are way worse things out there that many of you already eat/drink/swallow and breath.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 03:43 AM
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Horse and cow taste the same - look the same - cook the same (similar anyway)

The issue (for me) isn't the animal - it's the source
If horse and cow taste the same to you, you're getting crappy beef. It's much more like venison than beef. Very lean and has a finer texture. But what can I say, Americans are quite spoiled when it comes to our beef with it's growth hormones and corn fed fatty goodness. Not quite as good as Kobe beef, but close enough for the price.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:28 AM
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If horse and cow taste the same to you, you're getting crappy beef. It's much more like venison than beef. Very lean and has a finer texture. But what can I say, Americans are quite spoiled when it comes to our beef with it's growth hormones and corn fed fatty goodness. Not quite as good as Kobe beef, but close enough for the price.
I did qualify with 'similar' but what the heck - the issue is not that 'its bad meat' but that it's 'fraudulently sold'
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:28 AM
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You keep making the leap of blame to "the company". which is typical left land.

I simply wonder how the left fuctions at all... unless its spoon fed.
I see, he should be blaming the folks that run the "company" and not the company per say?
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