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Old Feb 28, 2012, 08:13 PM
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Experienced Apprentice and T-28 Pilots please reply!

I'm on the fence post deciding on my first plane. I've done research and I'm not interested in a 3 channel. I've been looking at either the E-Flite Apprentice RTF or the Parkzone T-28 BNF...both planes I've heard a ton about (both good and bad points). Please take note that I would sell off the DX5e transmitter if I purchased the Apprentice because I currently own a DX6i that I've been using with the Phoenix Flight Sim software along with my two E-Flite Blade heli's. Room to fly either of these is not an issue. I know both of these planes are different animals, but which one do you think would be in my best interest?
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 09:44 PM
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The apprentice will give you alot of help by self correcting. I started with a micro t28 and used a bunch of glue. You might not think so but when you tense up with anxiety its nice to have the plane flatten out by its self.
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Old Feb 28, 2012, 10:22 PM
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Especially if you won't have an instructor, I'd recommend the Apprentice. Bigger wheels and taped ailerons are about the only things I'd add.

Since you already have a transmitter, I'd go plug and play. Drop in a reciever, and you would need a charger and batteries.

Nitro Planes sells a battery line called Gens Ace. They are cheaper than e-flite and their 3300 3 cell performs well in this plane. I have also heard good things about HK Turnegy. Charger wise I have a T6 from Nitro Planes. HK has a similar one. It is a 4 bank charger that can handle any combination of battery types at the same time.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 06:56 AM
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I've done the pricing too. The PNP Apprentice ends up being more expensive than the RTF version (after I sell off the DX5e). I also have a Thunder Power charger for lipo's which I currently use for my RC cars.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 07:19 AM
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The apprentice will give you alot of help by self correcting. I started with a micro t28 and used a bunch of glue. You might not think so but when you tense up with anxiety its nice to have the plane flatten out by its self.
I agree.

I have never flown either plane, but I believe that my personal experiences might be of help in your decision.

I started with the Super Cub and can fly that thing blindfolded (almost). Like the Apprentice, it has dihedral in the wings which makes it easy to fly.

My second plane was the PZ S.E.5a. I still have a heck of a time keeping that thing in the sky. It has to be FLOWN, whereas the Super Cub flies itself hands-off due to the dihedral self correcting effects. My understanding is that the S.E.5a is just a little more difficult to fly than the t28. If that is so, then I strongly suggest you go with the Apprentice.

Another thing is size. The Apprentice is larger than the T28 and can be flown further away before losing orientation. That can be helpful for a newbie.

A lot of people love both planes, but for a self-taught newbie I think that the T28 would be a great second plane.

Good luck.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 08:23 AM
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For a first plane I went with the Apprentice and was glad I did. I liked the fact that it was a large plane. It has enough power and the ability to do loops and rolls and inverted flight. I eventually upgraded to a more powerful motor and put floats on it. It's a blast to fly of the water and looks great with floats.

In regards to the DX5e. I kept mine for one main reason "backup". I have a DX7 but I keep my DX5e in case there ever is a problem with the DX7. If your main radio goes south and you need to send it in you don't want to be loosing the flying season waiting for a repair. I also have used it to buddy box with new fliers.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 09:11 AM
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Keeping that radio is OK I guess, but it would need to be a 1 plane radio, or go through a bit of hassle to get it to work on another plane. BUT, even 1 plane to fly while the "good" radio is off to the shop isn't too bad, huh?

As for selling it ... good luck. I don't see many people lining up to buy those. It is, after all, a one trick pony.

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Old Feb 29, 2012, 09:59 AM
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I also fly my Apprentice on floats- what a blast.

It is also powerful enough (just barely) to haul an rc skydiver (micro diver) up to jump altitude.

The Dx5- used for the skydiver...
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:05 AM
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Apprentice 1st. great high wing trainer. Add bigger wheels for sure, and plan on upgrading the motor and esc eventually.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:09 AM
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I guess my biggest concern is whether or not I would get bored too soon with the Apprentice, only to turn around and pay more money out for the T-28. Has anyone experienced losing interest in their Apprentice quickly, or is it still part of your fleet?
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:12 AM
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I guess my biggest concern is whether or not I would get bored too soon with the Apprentice, ...?
Consider a Habu?
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:20 AM
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I still fly mine. For a high wing trainer type plane, it does Cuban 8's, flies around inverted, and stuff like that well.

I also used it as a first experience with floats, which worked well, and I may use it to try aero towing.

I don't think you will get tired of the Apprentice too quickly. Naturally you will want to step up at some point, but that is true with any plane.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:44 AM
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I still love mine. I'm setting her up to carry my GoPro2. Its a great model. I installed a bigger motor and esc. She'll float around slow or I can do aerobatics. Long flight times too.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 10:54 AM
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You can buy the Apprentice in Plug and Play so there is no need to buy a transmitter. The Apprentice flies something like Cub on steroids. It is not as maneuverable as the T-28 but it is more stable and easier to fly making it a true trainer. The T-28 is not a trainer.
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Old Feb 29, 2012, 02:19 PM
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It would be nice if the Phoenix Flight Sim had the E-Flite Apprentice on there.
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