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Old Sep 09, 2012, 03:53 AM
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Question re "tail pegs"
do you glue them in or are you able to break the tail down for transport?
my willow has the old vtail which is a semi permanent fixture, would be nice if it came off easily
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Old Sep 09, 2012, 07:17 AM
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Looking Good Rod ,
I see what your saying about tweaking 1 of them , maybe whip the tail off , heat the solder and get the ball to move , then snip off the excess.
TBH do you think it will affect it when each servos travel is set on the TX ?

I would leave it myself

Bob
Thanks, Bob. I could probably wait and work it out in the Tx programming, but I'm going to have the tail back apart to get the linkages bonded to the pushrods, anyway. A minute with the soldering iron, and I should have it nice and clean.

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Old Sep 09, 2012, 07:26 AM
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Question re "tail pegs"
do you glue them in or are you able to break the tail down for transport?
my willow has the old vtail which is a semi permanent fixture, would be nice if it came off easily
I'll be glueing mine in, with the tail feathers held to the fuse with transparent tape. If I want to be able to break it down for transport or repair, I will remove the tape, pop the ball links loose, and slide the tail feathers off the pegs. It will leave the tail with a "spiked club" appearance, but it's much more compact and pack-able than the full tail.

I would imagine glueing the pegs in is the intended build, as it will greatly strengthen that tail area.
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Old Sep 09, 2012, 08:28 AM
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I maidened mine at Grass Mt. Yesterday. Love it!
Found one more problem with it. The spluge they use is very brittle. I already had my second servo horn breake off. No big deal but I would recommend to bring epoxy to the slope as this happened to two of the Willows yesterday.
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 05:23 AM
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I've been thinking that the epoxy seems a bit on the "crispy" side. Hope the wing and tails can take sudden shocks on tough landings...
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Thanks for the feedback on the horns, I've only ever had 1 break off but I'll ask for the fixing to be improved. As someone who's bounced Willows around more than 1 hill- they are tough!

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Old Sep 10, 2012, 07:51 AM
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Fast time of the day at yesterdays contest, 38.xx by my friend Bob M. flying my Willow. WD
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 09:22 AM
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I've been thinking that the epoxy seems a bit on the "crispy" side. Hope the wing and tails can take sudden shocks on tough landings...
Wings and tails were no issue at all, just bring 5min epoxy for the horns and you won't miss a round.
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 10:04 AM
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RE: Low Time of the Day

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Fast time of the day at yesterdays contest, 38.xx by my friend Bob M. flying my Willow. WD

Warren,

I think that it is significant to mention that the above mentioned fast time of the day was achieved UNBALLESTED against a field of 9 others that were loading up everything they had. Granted the Willows base weight is pretty stout, but that planes AUW racing weight was way under everything else in the field......very impressive!

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Old Sep 12, 2012, 07:23 AM
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I am loving my Willow more and more - I've had it for about 7 months now. From the start it has had impeccable manners, and beautiful frontside aerobatic performance, better roll rate than any plane I've flown, of its size. As time goes on I am more impressed. I've moved the CG back and it snaps turns hard now. I have also flown it at our ridiculously small local coastal cliff which is generally considered "foamies only". The Willow is in its element, making great use of the small zone, unlike other big planes I've flown there which have stayed up, but not with any style. The Willow can strut its stuff in a tight spot. But I'm a DS nut, so the first time I flew the Willow I had it DSing in minutes and I have to say that I, and others I've given the sticks to, agree that it's the best tracking F3F moldie we've DS'ed, easy.

I did this video of a fun day out last weekend ... it's very long (sorry) but it's a fun watch and has several sessions of the Willow flying and DSing in there.

Four Aussie slopenuts having DS and frontside fun at Larrikin Ridge 8 Sep 2012 (23 min 8 sec)
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 07:30 AM
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I am loving my Willow more and more - I've had it for about 7 months now. From the start it has had impeccable manners, and beautiful frontside aerobatic performance, better roll rate than any plane I've flown, of its size. As time goes on I am more impressed. I've moved the CG back and it snaps turns hard now. I have also flown it at our ridiculously small local coastal cliff which is generally considered "foamies only". The Willow is in its element, making great use of the small zone, unlike other big planes I've flown there which have stayed up, but not with any style. The Willow can strut its stuff in a tight spot. But I'm a DS nut, so the first time I flew the Willow I had it DSing in minutes and I have to say that I, and others I've given the sticks to, agree that it's the best tracking F3F moldie we've DS'ed, easy.

I did this video of a fun day out last weekend ... it's very long (sorry) but it's a fun watch and has several sessions of the Willow flying and DSing in there.

http://vimeo.com/49125406
Nice slope! And you can drive right up there - so lucky!
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 07:57 AM
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Great video again Andy ,
I totally agree with you about the willows roll rate , and aerobatic performance for an f3f model . Ive said that its a great sport plane , you can race it , Aero it and DS to a reasonable speed , You may want to contact Ian and get yourself a 3 degree Willow wing joiner ,to see if it tracks any different on the DS circuit , it makes inverted far more stable also it makes a totally different sound when its ripping along , personally for me it has improved the roll rate as well ,
i use the 5 degree for floating on low lift days , and the 3 degree when the wind picks up .

Well done on a nice Vid

Bob
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Old Sep 12, 2012, 04:32 PM
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Bob, I'm not sure if mine is 3 or 5 deg (it's one of the version 2 planes with one piece V-tail) but I wouldn't change it ... I don't have any other light-air DS plane that is so stable in the circuit. And apart from the Vector there's no other plane that's as happy inverted. The other guys were really surprised that when it was only going 130ish upright, it was doing 100 inverted.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 11:49 AM
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I am loving my Willow more and more - I've had it for about 7 months now. From the start it has had impeccable manners, and beautiful frontside aerobatic performance, better roll rate than any plane I've flown, of its size. As time goes on I am more impressed. I've moved the CG back and it snaps turns hard now. I have also flown it at our ridiculously small local coastal cliff which is generally considered "foamies only". The Willow is in its element, making great use of the small zone, unlike other big planes I've flown there which have stayed up, but not with any style. The Willow can strut its stuff in a tight spot. But I'm a DS nut, so the first time I flew the Willow I had it DSing in minutes and I have to say that I, and others I've given the sticks to, agree that it's the best tracking F3F moldie we've DS'ed, easy.

I did this video of a fun day out last weekend ... it's very long (sorry) but it's a fun watch and has several sessions of the Willow flying and DSing in there.

Four Aussie slopenuts having DS and frontside fun at Larrikin Ridge 8 Sep 2012 (23 min 8 sec)


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Old Oct 05, 2012, 09:41 AM
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That was a fun video to watch, great commentary, and a great selection of planes, I liked the inverted laps. Ian
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