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Old Aug 29, 2012, 11:01 AM
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I don't think so... Your mix is the fix. I do it also but leave some rudder on the right stick in case my brain thinks ailerons
I am new to the hobby. I have a dx8, could you give me a step by step instruction for programming the mix, from rudder right stick to rudder left stick?

Thanks in advance,
Robin.
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Old Aug 29, 2012, 09:34 PM
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You need to use two mixes.

Rudder -> Aileron mix, +100, +100
Aileron -> Aileron mix, -100, -100

On all the time, with trim.

The two numbers are the adjustment for negative movement and positive movement.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:10 AM
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My Night Vapor got wet- Now what?

Flying off of my boat at night has it's inherrant dangers. Add a bunch of booze to this equation and you end up with one Night Vapor taking the plunge.

So here is what happens:

I turn it on and it will bind. THe lights all work. The rudder and elevator are very jerky and have about a second delay. The motor starts to spin up and then shuts off.

Is there any saving this thing or is it headed to the trash.

Guessing it is the ESC / board. Can I fix this?
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 11:38 AM
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Salt water or fresh water?
I've dunked a couple of my micro blade heli's in hotel fountains and as long as I pull the battery right away and let them dry, they work fine.

From the sounds though, I think you need a replacement ESC.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Flying off of my boat at night has it's inherrant dangers. Add a bunch of booze to this equation and you end up with one Night Vapor taking the plunge.

So here is what happens:

I turn it on and it will bind. THe lights all work. The rudder and elevator are very jerky and have about a second delay. The motor starts to spin up and then shuts off.

Is there any saving this thing or is it headed to the trash.

Guessing it is the ESC / board. Can I fix this?

The Motor shutting off is probably the battery. Water is how you kill them. Buy a new one.

Use a #000 phillips screw driver to remove the servo racks. Use alcohol and a Q-tip to wipe the carbon off the resistive strips and servo brushes, then screw the racks back on.

You may have hurt the ESC if you tried to run the brick while it was still wet, but I'd still go with the battery.
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Old Sep 28, 2012, 01:54 PM
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Waterproofing ESC's

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The Motor shutting off is probably the battery. Water is how you kill them. Buy a new one.

Use a #000 phillips screw driver to remove the servo racks. Use alcohol and a Q-tip to wipe the carbon off the resistive strips and servo brushes, then screw the racks back on.

You may have hurt the ESC if you tried to run the brick while it was still wet, but I'd still go with the battery.
The esc could have been dried out but yes running just to see if it still works.........There is product called "Corrosion X" which the waterplane guys use. You can use it to waterproof almost anthing electrical. I had a receiver proofed with this which survived 2 weeks in storms hung high up a tree.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 03:52 PM
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I 've had my NV for a few months now, first plane. I bought a prop saver and some GWS props from rcfunlab. The props are a EP4040, EP4025 and a EP4540. Is there a preferred one or is the stock prop still my best choice? The NV is a fun plane even though I only fly it indoors in a armory, lots of space and at least a 30 foot ceiling

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 05:01 PM
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I've not been a reader of this thread... I've just subscribed... so, I may be speaking in ignorance. But, the stock prop is a metric140x45 (5.5x1.8 inches) or about equal to a 5518 in the EP numbering scheme. I don't know what the stock prop weighs but the 4040 is almost 1.1 g. and the 4025 is 1.25 g... that is almost 1/10 the weight of my vapor's 16.5 grams, and the propsaver and o-ring will probably bring the total up to 25% of the plane's all-up weight (AUW). You might end up nose heavy.

I'll be reading the thread to see what others' might have said. have you thought of using the thread tools to search for "prop"?

Edited after some searching.....

I didn't know about the little GWJ propsavers... you might be on to something. I still think you'd need to beware of nose weight but others have done it.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 07:42 PM
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Yes. I did search "props" just about everything I found pertained to props with broken shafts, not much on performance with various sizes. The stock NV prop weighs 1.26 grams with spinner, .90 without.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 08:07 PM
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There was a feller in Colorado at post #620 that was using some non-stock props to advantage.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 08:53 PM
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Yes. I did search "props" just about everything I found pertained to props with broken shafts, not much on performance with various sizes. The stock NV prop weighs 1.26 grams with spinner, .90 without.
Go to page 22, I posted a pic of the prop and a link. There not cheap but you'll never regret buying one. I've used this prop on the Vapor since it first came out. Haven't broke a prop or a prop shaft yet and it's quite an improvement over the stock one. Keep reading after pg22 because there's a elevator mod that should be done to all Vapors.
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Old Oct 01, 2012, 11:39 PM
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That elevator mod is a good idea. I've never been one to "speed" fly or dive my NV but if your outside and a sudden gust hits you head on, you will get the sudden nose dive effect from that too. Normally I have no problem with the stock tail but after the other day I may do the mod. I was lucky and recovered before it hit the ground.
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Old Oct 02, 2012, 12:08 AM
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I might try a 5030 prop. I have prop adapters. I use j3 motor stock prop and love it.


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Old Oct 12, 2012, 02:23 PM
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Had a NV for two weeks now, getting used to flying it in our lounge

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Old Oct 13, 2012, 07:58 PM
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Just to add on to that... My vapors are flown in my living room 99% of the time and I love them for the ability to do so. Nearly a constant turn (small living room!), but so much fun.
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