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Old Mar 04, 2013, 10:25 PM
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Thanks Diesel. What throws are you using?
I downloaded the DX8 files from HH. I needed to add just a tad more expo to ailerons for by liking though.
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Old Mar 04, 2013, 10:49 PM
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I downloaded the DX8 files from HH. I needed to add just a tad more expo to ailerons for by liking though.
Could you possibly measure throws on say low rate?
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Old Mar 05, 2013, 02:42 PM
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would like to provide a few more comments on my experience with the Scimitar.

First off, the Scimitar flies quit nicely with an apc 10x7e prop, I really can't tell any difference from the more expensive stock prop. You do have to ream the apc out to 8mm. After about a half dozen plus flights I have mixed emotions about the Scimitar. About the only advantage I see in the Scimitar over the Park Zone Stryker F27Q is that the Scimitar has wheels and does knife edge better. Other than that, the Styker is faster if you want to be, more aerobatic, and overall easier to fly. I attribute this in great part to the fact that the Styker is 3+ pounds lighter than the Scimitar. Both planes are farely indestructable as foamies go, easily repairable, and the screws only assembly on the Scimitar is a plus. One of the things I don't like about the Scimitar is that you really can't do any impressive spins without using the vectored thrust and full power (at least for me). I can get my Stryker spinning faster than you can count; the Scimitar is far from being the “flat spin king” they advertize. On the other hand, the ease with which the Scimitar does knife edge is a nice plus.

I have electric retracts on my Scimitar, but have taken them off. Our runway is asphault and covered with huge bumps from crack sealing. These bumps raise hell with landing gear on small planes. I have bent the nose gear two or three times already. In addition, the Scimitar seems a little weird in landing. I haven't quit figured it out yet. Some times it lands great and sometimes it bounces all over the place. It's pretty sensitive to landing impact, you really do need to set her down softly and not to slow or to fast. I really can't tell any difference in flight performance between the retracts and fixed gear. Making a new piano wire nose strut then going to try retracts again.

The Scimitar colors are hard to see for me. Several times I have lost precious second or two keeping orientation. I had the same problem with the Stryker until I painted it and I'm doing the same with the Scimitar; an all black bottom and eventually black/yellow top.

I have found that flying the Scimitar with a 4S 4000mah battery gives me more flight time and makes the cg much easier to manage than a 3300mah battery. It also doesn't seem to hamper performance. I tried a 3000mah 5S, but it was too much for the esc, drawing over 60amps. When I get a chance I'm going to put an 80A Turnigy Plush in her and try the 5S again. The 3000mah 5S and 4000mah 4S are about the same size and weight. Be interesting to see if I can get more than 3 or 4 minutes out of the 5S.
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Old Mar 05, 2013, 03:26 PM
what ya mean i have to land?
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been flying mine a bit more lately,starting to get use to the vector.It does go into flat spins nicely upright or inverted.One thinig i really like is flying level at full speed,throw the rudder stick full right or left and it spins around and continues the same direction.the thrust vectoring works well with other stunts,Just wish it was 2 axis rather than 1.As for landing i have a grass runway.I swapped out the front wheel for a larger one,put rubber wheels on the back.As long as i come in with power i can land with no bounce,Just greases in for a nice smooth landing.Am using a 3000 4s batt but going up to a 4000 next time i order batts.I have fast strykers so this is more of a let's see what happens plane.Is fun tho
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Old Mar 05, 2013, 05:24 PM
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Could you possibly measure throws on say low rate?
Yea I should be able to.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:38 PM
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Well got 4 more flights in today. I like it better than I did at first. With half of the recommend diff. it rolls like it is on a string. On mid rate ele it loops just fine. knife edge is awesome. What's up with a snap roll? The plane just looses all speed and tries to spin. Landing are easy as long as you don't hold it off too much. With the speed brakes out ie rudders it drops to the right in a stall and spins. With the rudders in it just slows down. I don't need the throttle to aileron mix. Jury is still out on the vector thrust. Getting about 4 1/2 min on a 4000 4s. Mostly full throttle. I'm going to get the retracts for it next. She sure is a looker.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 06:42 PM
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the longer i have had the plane the more i like it. To bad it has been discontinued.
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 08:10 PM
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Does anyone know is PW/RC or Hobby King have Retracts to fit the Scimitar? I could not find the answer looking thru this blog. thanks, Les
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 08:42 PM
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The Ductitar!

Buddy at local field created this monster!
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Old Mar 08, 2013, 10:49 PM
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Buddy at local field created this monster!
Any ideas about the power system? Fan, motor, ESC, battery?
This would certainly eliminate the chewed up props from gravel and grass runways.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 12:10 AM
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I assume the 80mm version.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/browse/p.../:cp=1/:ip=9/:


Gryphon
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 06:49 AM
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I believe it is the stock power 32 delta system. Hopefully he will chyme in. He did a very nice job with the mod.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 06:55 AM
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Well got 4 more flights in today. I like it better than I did at first. With half of the recommend diff. it rolls like it is on a string. On mid rate ele it loops just fine. knife edge is awesome. What's up with a snap roll? The plane just looses all speed and tries to spin. Landing are easy as long as you don't hold it off too much. With the speed brakes out ie rudders it drops to the right in a stall and spins. With the rudders in it just slows down. I don't need the throttle to aileron mix. Jury is still out on the vector thrust. Getting about 4 1/2 min on a 4000 4s. Mostly full throttle. I'm going to get the retracts for it next. She sure is a looker.
So you'd recommend doing rudders in as speed brakes? I have mine currently set to out but I haven't had a chance to test it, this crap weather won't let up.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 07:53 AM
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I have the "rudder brakes" on my Stryker, and yes, rudders in works better for me also.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 11:53 AM
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So you'd recommend doing rudders in as speed brakes? I have mine currently set to out but I haven't had a chance to test it, this crap weather won't let up.
Make sure you have the TV mix off so you don't chop up your rudders when they come in!
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