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Old Nov 07, 2011, 10:46 AM
More jets than a carburetor
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Is this you in the car bro?

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Old Nov 07, 2011, 11:51 AM
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Take this jet, fiber glass it, put two het fans and two 2w-20 and it will a be little rocket brick. Thats the plan.
Remember that I made a rough comparison of the Freewing MiG-29 stock fans and motors and Wemotecs with 2w20s. The Wemo+HET combination was not better. In fact, at the high end, the stock fans+motors were better (they did not max out so early). So, the stock fans+motors on the Su-35 may be quite good enough.

Cheers,
Henrik
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 12:48 PM
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Ready2fly.com seem to have them for sell now. http://www.ready2fly.com/shop/USER_A...0881d83337c4e0
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 12:57 PM
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Ready2fly.com seem to have them for sell now. http://www.ready2fly.com/shop/USER_A...0881d83337c4e0
"voraussichtlich im Januar lieferbar"...djeez...thats forever...;-)
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 01:42 PM
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No comment on this.

Sometimes it is better to not tell to much you know to everyone you know..otherwise to outcome isn't as good as the surprise moment

NS.
True! Kinda like Xmas as a kid, mom n pops tell u there all out of what u want & get your hopes down. Then on Xmas day your pleasantly surprised when they got it. Well I was planning on buying another plane just 2, but maybe I'll wait for this 1. Don't know if my addiction can keep me from waiting till it arrives in the US. $430 shipped from rdy2fly ouch! Thanks for the info!
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 02:27 PM
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Is this you in the car bro?

Darn, you got me
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 02:28 PM
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True! Kinda like Xmas as a kid, mom n pops tell u there all out of what u want & get your hopes down. Then on Xmas day your pleasantly surprised when they got it. Well I was planning on buying another plane just 2, but maybe I'll wait for this 1. Don't know if my addiction can keep me from waiting till it arrives in the US. $430 shipped from rdy2fly ouch! Thanks for the info!
See, not that bad in the end is it ?

There is a lot more to tell, but I am not allowed too

All I can say...2012 will be AMAZING!!!!

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Old Nov 07, 2011, 02:49 PM
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199 EURO airframe only? seems abit high if you ask me

no front slats, no airbrake..
is the paracute working?

well, we will see how it comes out in the end.
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 03:16 PM
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199 EURO airframe only? seems abit high if you ask me

no front slats, no airbrake..
is the paracute working?

well, we will see how it comes out in the end.
Nobody forces you to buy it Darling.

Take it or leave it Sweetie

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Old Nov 07, 2011, 03:24 PM
More jets than a carburetor
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I assume Hobby Lobby will have these.
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 04:06 PM
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Nobody forces you to buy it Darling.

Take it or leave it Sweetie

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neversommer, i was just comparing it to other equal size jets, Banana sells the mig29 airframe $179.

199 = $274
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Old Nov 07, 2011, 06:00 PM
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i was just comparing it to other equal size jets, Banana sells the mig29 airframe $179.
199€ = $274
The 199 Euros probably contain 19% value added tax. Without VAT, you'd be looking at a price of about 167 Euros, or 229$. For that, you get better retracts and better fans than the Lanxiang MiG-29 airframe has, plus all the wires (which you don't get for the MiG). Also, if you buy the MiG-29 airframe, you will do A LOT more work than if you buy the pre-built Su-35 (at least if it is as pre-built as the SebArt MiG29 and the Su-34 variants without servos, engines and ESCs were).

Cheers,
Henrik

PS1: I don't want to denigrate the LX MiG, I've had it thrice, it flies very well, but not all parts of it are good and it does needs tuning.
PS2: Try to get Banana to ship MiG-29 parts to Germany. I tried. They had it all in stock, officially, but in the end just cancelled the order.
PS3: If you import from Banana/US to Germany, you may have to pay customs on top of VAT.
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Old Nov 08, 2011, 10:33 AM
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hklagges you might be right.
i just checked their homepage and it says no additional costs (customs, tax). wonder how they handle that

well, time will tell about this jet, i guess i wait for a first review from someone before i decide to go with it or not.
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Old Nov 08, 2011, 10:55 AM
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Gary.... same statement that I have made in a German forum regarding the Venom sold by R2F. 200 Euro is by far too much for some EPO and retract that directly move to the bin.

Sure nobody is forcing us to buy the kits on the one hand but on the other hands they want our money and therefore have to think about their prices and if their calculation is right.

From my point of view the European retailers slowly but surely going crazy on the prices of kit versions. Compared with the fully equipped versions the kits are far too expensive. I assume the SU-35 has 9 servos which might be charged with 10 Euro each to the end customer and then you have to add 2 EDF units, two motors, two ESCs. Buying all from Freewing in a European shop is more then 100 Euro. Adding 90 Euro for the sevos is 190 Euro. So I think the kit version is something like 90 Euro too expensive when taking into consideration what the other components cost.

If the trend to pay 200 or more Euro for a kit slowly it turns to be a deal to order kit versions in the US.

R2F has taxed Euro prices on their website. They are doing customs for you if shipping from Switzerland. Some time ago they planned to have a despatching site in Germany to supply the EU customers without additional costs as far as I know. But this might already have changed.

Just my opinion.... nobody needs to follow it. Just wanted to say that it is too expensive for me. I am not willing to pay that much for some packaging material.
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Old Nov 08, 2011, 11:04 AM
To drive or to fly......BOTH!!
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I love the look and size of this bird. I am an SU-34 owner and its now 2 years old and in 1 piece still. But the prices of these birds is getting so high its actually pushing me towards composite kits. I know they have costs to cover and do get the business end of things. Just getting so much that if I do get one it wont be for a year or 2 when the price comes down or a big sale like black friday at H/L if thats where it shows up. Very sad .

Jason
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