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Old Jul 15, 2015, 07:37 PM
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I'm trying to use the 3 position flap switch for the 3 AS3X modes.

DX7 doesnt have channel assigning to switch function so I guess the only way to do it is to use mixing?
The problem is the flight mode should be sent on the GEAR channel, and on the DX7 it's hard to control that channel with the Flap switch. That's why I use the helicopter mode on my DX7 and 9503 for "Horizon" stuff with flight modes, including this plane and the SAFE system planes.

Basically what I do on the DX7 is I use the GYRO setting to manage the GEAR channel position in each flight mode. This is typically used to set a different gyro gain in each flight mode for a helicopter, but the bottom line is you can emit a certain GEAR channel number for each Flap switch position. On the JR9503 I do the same thing but using the Governor setting menu.

Now, you could also use a mix - simply "copy" the FLAP channel over to the GEAR channel with a 100% mix. But, then the FLAP channel will move too - on this plane that doesn't matter but on some other Horizon stuff it does (panic mode on the 200SR for example).
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Old Jul 15, 2015, 10:01 PM
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Another option is to just use 2 flight modes as there are really only 2 that I suggest flying in.

General AS3X and hover mode. All your flying will be done in general, hover mode is fun indoors. Knife edge mode is really not a good mode for anything. If you can control aileron and elevator to keep a plane pointed in the right direction, then you would be advanced enough to feed in rudder to begin with. Makes regular flying weird.

Consider just the two modes.
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Old Jul 16, 2015, 01:36 AM
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Another option is to just use 2 flight modes as there are really only 2 that I suggest flying in.

General AS3X and hover mode. All your flying will be done in general, hover mode is fun indoors. Knife edge mode is really not a good mode for anything. If you can control aileron and elevator to keep a plane pointed in the right direction, then you would be advanced enough to feed in rudder to begin with. Makes regular flying weird.

Consider just the two modes.
That's a great idea, does that mean I just cancel all the mixing and the gear switch will control the flight modes?
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Old Jul 16, 2015, 01:36 PM
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That's a great idea, does that mean I just cancel all the mixing and the gear switch will control the flight modes?
Yes, if you set the end-points for the GEAR channel correctly.
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Yes, if you set the end-points for the GEAR channel correctly.
Should I max out the end points in travel adjust?

Thanks!
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Should I max out the end points in travel adjust?

Thanks!
Depends on which flight modes you want for which stick positions?

I think general will be -100, AS3X will be 0 and Hover will be 100... but it could be backwards from that.

So, if you wanted General and AS3X, you would set position 0 to -100 and position 1 to 0. If you wanted general and hover assist you would set position 0 to -100 and position 1 to +100.
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Depends on which flight modes you want for which stick positions?

I think general will be -100, AS3X will be 0 and Hover will be 100... but it could be backwards from that.

So, if you wanted General and AS3X, you would set position 0 to -100 and position 1 to 0. If you wanted general and hover assist you would set position 0 to -100 and position 1 to +100.
Thanks Buddy !
I'm thinking maybe mine didnt work beacause I had the flaps set to +150 0 and -150 so its always on mode 2 !!
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ok I have just flown 8 packs with the gear going from 0 to 100 but once again I dont feel any difference, I'm starting to suspect that I have a bad one.....
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Thanks Buddy !
I'm thinking maybe mine didnt work beacause I had the flaps set to +150 0 and -150 so its always on mode 2 !!
Well yeah, the As3xtra doesn't even see that channel. FLAP is channel 6, it's looking for channel 5 - GEAR on most radios. So probably, if nothing was happening on the GEAR channel, it was centered, which would be "AS3X Mode"
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ok I have just flown 8 packs with the gear going from 0 to 100 but once again I dont feel any difference, I'm starting to suspect that I have a bad one.....
There is not a huge difference between general and AS3X modes, but there is a major difference in hover assist mode - so try reversing the channel and see if one of the positions give you hover assist. You'll be able to tell if you're in hover assist because the plane will oscillate in level flight if you go too fast. It will do that in the other modes too if you get too much airspeed. I made a point of it in my review...

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Apologies for not sifting through the thread but what is the best way to repair nose damage? I was going to use some thin CF rod and sticky tape?
Cheers

*edit*
Just had time to finally go through previous posts. Doh. For a first 3D this thing is so fun and easy to fly!
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Ya, I've always used 1mm carbon rod held in with c.a. slit the foam length wise and glue it in the slots.
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Ya, I've always used 1mm carbon rod held in with c.a. slit the foam length wise and glue it in the slots.
I'd second this. Slitting should help keep the amount of glue down, good idea. Minimal added weight is key, thin cf rod is wonderfully flexible, strong, and light: exactly the perfect strength mod for this plane.
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A tale of woe:

It has taken me a few weeks to get around to reporting this. But my UMX AS3Xtra is no more!
I was out flying in a nearby soccer field, early in the morning one day. Admittedly my plane had gotten sluggish from a few too many repairs, adding weight that had robbed it of its true 3D characteristics. But I had still been getting a lot out of it as a general practice plane.
A man was walking his dog. A puppy, he later pointed out, that was still not yet well trained.
My plane came down a bit of a distance from where I was: batteries ran low, had to land. Normally not an issue, right? But the dog was off leash. And the dog loved chasing birds.

I cautiously walked.
The dog excitedly prowled.
I ran.
The dog ran.

Guess who got there first.
A proud puppy with his first avian catch secured beneath his paws!
How proud that little pup was! How proud, too, he surely imagined, these humans would be!

Both owners exchanged a few terse words. But after venting mutual frustration, the pup's camp showed unexpected good will by offering to pay half for the replacement body. We shook hands; I picked up the sum later on, as agreed.

I packed away the plane and took it home sad-of-heart. See the attached photos of my poor beat-up plane. Note the canine perpetrator's muddy pawprints still visible on the ailerons.

But wait: a call from the local hobby store that very morning. The AS3Xtra replacement body I had ordered weeks earlier from E-flite had finally arrived!
So on the very same day it got smashed beyond repair I also got the body with which to replace it.

Observe the two chassis side-by-side on my workdesk as I rip up the old, swap in the parts, and set up the new. I'll be up and flying again in no time!

Nothing will keep this Nyathi grounded!
Happy flying all!
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Maidened the "resurrected body" this morning. Great to have it hanging from the prop again. I kept my mods to a minimum, weight management is sooo important at this scale - big lesson learned. Just two 1mm cf rods: one across the entire wingspan, one wrapped around the chin of the plane and along the bottom keel. New motor, new prop. No significant bad flying characteristics. Elevator range is a bit high, rudder a bit less than I'd like. But here's a plane that can take an extreme elevator. A few tight loops threw off the battery: back to needing a stronger custom velcro, which I already have on hand and which worked very well for me before.
Great for flying in the tightest of available spaces. I maidened in a small city park and still felt like I had ample room.
Flights were about 5 minutes per battery.
Apologies once again for not documenting the maiden. I don't have a head-mounted setup yet. My flying has improved vastly since I maidened the first body of this plane, so it's now far less likely I'll crash. This one might actually manage to last a while!

There are a few notes on the attached pictures
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