HobbyKing.com New Products Flash Sale
Reply
Thread Tools
This thread is privately moderated by Gary Evans, who may elect to delete unwanted replies.
Old May 22, 2011, 10:23 AM
SlowStick Test Pilot
patrickegan's Avatar
Yumastan RCAPA.NET
Joined Feb 2003
5,888 Posts
I have serious doubts that Administrator Babbitt will ever sign off on that SFAR.
patrickegan is offline Find More Posts by patrickegan
Reply With Quote
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Old May 22, 2011, 11:56 AM
Waiting for the paint to dry.
ctrout's Avatar
Pasadena Maryland
Joined Oct 2009
1,233 Posts
Is the 10lbs limit still being used, if so why did that weight limit get used if the mph is 60
Trout
ctrout is offline Find More Posts by ctrout
Reply With Quote
Old May 22, 2011, 01:46 PM
FPV Desert Beta Test Center
Mesa, Arizona
Joined Nov 2006
2,432 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ctrout View Post
Is the 10lbs limit still being used, if so why did that weight limit get used if the mph is 60
Trout

What weight and speed limit are you referring to?
Gary Evans is offline Find More Posts by Gary Evans
Reply With Quote
Old May 22, 2011, 02:27 PM
Waiting for the paint to dry.
ctrout's Avatar
Pasadena Maryland
Joined Oct 2009
1,233 Posts
The FPV safety of the 1st page.
I'm trying to keep up with subject but I dont see the starting point of what or why what limits are being used.
Just trying to keep up with the subject.
Trout
ctrout is offline Find More Posts by ctrout
Reply With Quote
Old May 22, 2011, 03:11 PM
FPV Desert Beta Test Center
Mesa, Arizona
Joined Nov 2006
2,432 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ctrout View Post
The FPV safety of the 1st page.
I'm trying to keep up with subject but I dont see the starting point of what or why what limits are being used.
Just trying to keep up with the subject.
Trout
The first post is the safety guidelines and there are no limits specified. It simply reads "Aircraft maximum weight and speed limited to AMA safety rules and FAA guidelines". AMA would be the one to ask how then arrived at any limits in their club rules. Neither however are FAA regulations. Those are coming.
Gary Evans is offline Find More Posts by Gary Evans
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 08:58 AM
Registered User
imagebuff's Avatar
United States, TX, Tomball
Joined Jan 2011
697 Posts
The Wall Street Journal daily podcast had a quick blurb about upcoming FAA rulings affecting RC aircraft. "These aren't your father's model planes" was the catch line. They didn't mention FPV but mentioned higher speeds, better batteries, etc..
imagebuff is offline Find More Posts by imagebuff
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 09:07 AM
SlowStick Test Pilot
patrickegan's Avatar
Yumastan RCAPA.NET
Joined Feb 2003
5,888 Posts
It's all gone mainstream
patrickegan is offline Find More Posts by patrickegan
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 09:38 AM
FPV Desert Beta Test Center
Mesa, Arizona
Joined Nov 2006
2,432 Posts
You suppose any videos are getting screened in the House & Senate chambers?
Gary Evans is offline Find More Posts by Gary Evans
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 01:07 PM
SlowStick Test Pilot
patrickegan's Avatar
Yumastan RCAPA.NET
Joined Feb 2003
5,888 Posts
I'm sure they trot those out to show why we must have regulation.
patrickegan is offline Find More Posts by patrickegan
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 01:29 PM
Registered User
BushmanLA's Avatar
Joined Dec 2005
1,819 Posts
Whats the latest scuttle butt on this?

Anyone wanna give a current situation briefing?
BushmanLA is offline Find More Posts by BushmanLA
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 03:34 PM
my karma ranover my dogma
galaxiex's Avatar
Edmonton,Canada Eh
Joined Jun 2007
7,570 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Evans View Post
You suppose any videos are getting screened in the House & Senate chambers?
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickegan View Post
I'm sure they trot those out to show why we must have regulation.
I wonder which FPV videos they watch???.... .... or....
galaxiex is offline Find More Posts by galaxiex
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 04:18 PM
FPV Desert Beta Test Center
Mesa, Arizona
Joined Nov 2006
2,432 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by BushmanLA View Post
Whats the latest scuttle butt on this?

Anyone wanna give a current situation briefing?
Two things are going on.

1) The FFA NPRM is still underway which will define regulations for all small unmanned aerial systems. Publication of the NPRM has been moved out to the end of the year and the comment period to 2/12. Best guess is that amateur models resposibility would be given to AMA which would require their rules to be followed to be exempt from the other sUAS regulations.

2) AMA apparently called in a marker and got an amendment added to the Senate version of H.R.658 "FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act" which would totally exclude Amateur models from FAA regulations. The House version of the act doesn't not however contain that amendment. A joint subcommittee has been formed to reconcile the diffferences between the two.

So IMO reading between the lines FAA wants amateur models covered by regulations and it would not be unexpected for them to apply presssure to do so. Wonder what they could possible use to do that??

Interestingly this has just surfaced.


http://tinyurl.com/3omedtd

http://tinyurl.com/3sjlho6
Gary Evans is offline Find More Posts by Gary Evans
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 04:32 PM
my karma ranover my dogma
galaxiex's Avatar
Edmonton,Canada Eh
Joined Jun 2007
7,570 Posts
May you live in interesting times.....
galaxiex is offline Find More Posts by galaxiex
Reply With Quote
Old May 24, 2011, 04:47 PM
Registered User
Daemon's Avatar
Lakewood, Colorado
Joined Aug 2002
28,669 Posts
Hmm, a very positive article in a national publication, and a *very* negative response
from the AMA. Nice.


ian
Daemon is online now Find More Posts by Daemon
RCG Plus Member
Old May 24, 2011, 05:24 PM
Registered User
Daemon's Avatar
Lakewood, Colorado
Joined Aug 2002
28,669 Posts
I especially like where he immediately took FPV completely out of the context and
examples presented in the article (flying low down the alps, the desert, and
the river around Manhattan) and went straight to intense fear mongering targeted
straight at the general public, about ingesting an I-phone [sic] at airliner altitudes, and
misrepresenting what we do as something that should be regulated as a purely commercial venture.

It just solidifies my opinion that by far the biggest threat to amateur FPV comes from within
the R/C community itself and if the misrepresentation and outright lies I now hear
regularly at my local hobby store are any indication, there are plenty of other R/C
pilots (and a few who just fancy themselves as such) who would be happy to go
out of their way to make our lives miserable.

I'm sure that totally alienating one of the fastest growing and evolving segments of model
aviation, will serve the AMA well.

ian
Daemon is online now Find More Posts by Daemon
RCG Plus Member
Last edited by Daemon; May 24, 2011 at 05:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Poll Proposed U.S. FPV Guidelines - Max Range Gary Evans FPV Talk 65 Aug 10, 2008 02:27 AM
Poll Proposed U.S. FPV Guidelines - Max Weight Gary Evans FPV Talk 16 Jul 30, 2008 01:30 PM
Poll Proposed U.S. FPV Guidelines - Max Altitude Gary Evans FPV Talk 52 Jul 30, 2008 01:05 PM